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So you may put CA79 so close to the wall? CA99 (because of its soundboard?) needs a gap between the wall and CA99 at least 30 cm to sound good. Or so I read. Currently I have about 20 cm and the sound is not much different from 30 cm, but I haven't tried 40-50 cm yet... BTW, when you say you prefer CA79 sound to CA99's - is it because it is cleaner, no additional distortions caused by the soundboard (but present in acoustics too) , or perhaps you listened to CA99 located too close to a wall?
I am still working on the wall distance positioning. If I place it like 30cm away, I feel the sound is too "dispersed" and does not give me the sound I was used to from my previous Grand which was a bit more in your face with the lid open. Moving closer to the wall, gives me a more "coming from the actual piano" feel. I am working on a balance now.
I tested the CA99 twice..second time I went with the info I found here and moved it away from the wall even up to 2 feet just to test. I could NOT get rid of what I perceive as a more congested sound (didn't have issues with soundboard noises). I was surprised to see the term used to describe the CA98 before it by some users here too. So guess for some of us, it does not work. I wonder if it has to do with being used to a grand with lid open vs an upright sound? Not sure but I was super biased towards the CA99 which is why I went a 2nd time but in the end, the CA79 sound was the one that did it for me.
So you may put CA79 so close to the wall? CA99 (because of its soundboard?) needs a gap between the wall and CA99 at least 30 cm to sound good. Or so I read. Currently I have about 20 cm and the sound is not much different from 30 cm, but I haven't tried 40-50 cm yet... BTW, when you say you prefer CA79 sound to CA99's - is it because it is cleaner, no additional distortions caused by the soundboard (but present in acoustics too) , or perhaps you listened to CA99 located too close to a wall?
I am still working on the wall distance positioning. If I place it like 30cm away, I feel the sound is too "dispersed" and does not give me the sound I was used to from my previous Grand which was a bit more in your face with the lid open. Moving closer to the wall, gives me a more "coming from the actual piano" feel. I am working on a balance now.
I tested the CA99 twice..second time I went with the info I found here and moved it away from the wall even up to 2 feet just to test. I could NOT get rid of what I perceive as a more congested sound (didn't have issues with soundboard noises). I was surprised to see the term used to describe the CA98 before it by some users here too. So guess for some of us, it does not work. I wonder if it has to do with being used to a grand with lid open vs an upright sound? Not sure but I was super biased towards the CA99 which is why I went a 2nd time but in the end, the CA79 sound was the one that did it for me.
Did you listen to it also from farther away, somebody else playing or in demo mode. It is supposed to fill the room better. Not necessarily better sounding from the players perspective but from elsewhere. Although who cares about others
So you may put CA79 so close to the wall? CA99 (because of its soundboard?) needs a gap between the wall and CA99 at least 30 cm to sound good. Or so I read. Currently I have about 20 cm and the sound is not much different from 30 cm, but I haven't tried 40-50 cm yet... BTW, when you say you prefer CA79 sound to CA99's - is it because it is cleaner, no additional distortions caused by the soundboard (but present in acoustics too) , or perhaps you listened to CA99 located too close to a wall?
I am still working on the wall distance positioning. If I place it like 30cm away, I feel the sound is too "dispersed" and does not give me the sound I was used to from my previous Grand which was a bit more in your face with the lid open. Moving closer to the wall, gives me a more "coming from the actual piano" feel. I am working on a balance now.
I tested the CA99 twice..second time I went with the info I found here and moved it away from the wall even up to 2 feet just to test. I could NOT get rid of what I perceive as a more congested sound (didn't have issues with soundboard noises). I was surprised to see the term used to describe the CA98 before it by some users here too. So guess for some of us, it does not work. I wonder if it has to do with being used to a grand with lid open vs an upright sound? Not sure but I was super biased towards the CA99 which is why I went a 2nd time but in the end, the CA79 sound was the one that did it for me.
Did you listen to it also from farther away, somebody else playing or in demo mode. It is supposed to fill the room better. Not necessarily better sounding from the players perspective but from elsewhere. Although who cares about others
Yeah not really, I play for myself so it has to sound good for me first as I am more demanding than my wife (audience)
To me its mid-range sounds a bit boxy. Or congested. Yes, you are right. Need to try it in the middle of the room. Great ends, though. Currently I am sort of stuck at 20 cm from the wall because my AiO computer is hanging a bit too low, or way to high at the next arm height. But I did not feel any real improvement when trying at 30 cm. Because of this SARS-2 thing I did not want to go to any store personally. And it was in May. It is much worse now... Perhaps I would have liked CA79 better too. But I mostly play with headphones anyway. I am guessing that even without the soundboard CA79 passes enough vibrations to the keys. With the soundboard CA99 sure does. Oh, to open up, CA99 requires quite a lot of master volume - over a half at least. Again - recommendations. But yes, probably. I find that a brighter voicing helps with congestion somewhat.
Does anyone cover the speaker with fabric cover or something? I don't like the exposed speaker on top and worry that it might become a nightmare to clean later on.
Assembly is pretty easy but carrying it, that's another story. My wife it's light weight so it was s bit too heavy for her to move it from the garage to our living room. I didn't want to risk her back so I got a neighbor to help me after I setup the stand.
Ah, it sounds like you opened the box to remove the stand and carried it in separately to assemble, then carried i the the main unit? That's a good idea, but I imagine most of the weight is still in the main unit. My wife is small too.
Assembly is pretty easy but carrying it, that's another story. My wife it's light weight so it was s bit too heavy for her to move it from the garage to our living room. I didn't want to risk her back so I got a neighbor to help me after I setup the stand.
Ah, it sounds like you opened the box to remove the stand and carried it in separately to assemble, then carried i the the main unit? That's a good idea, but I imagine most of the weight is still in the main unit. My wife is small too.
Yeah the wight is mostly the main unit, pretty solid build based on the weight
Good morning. I have a question for Kawai James. Do all variations of a specific piano sound (eg. Romantic, Brilliant, etc.) use the same samples (with only virtual technician parameter changes), or are they different samples?
I ask because in some cases it seemed to me that I perceived different samples, so I thought that each variation had a specific set of samples.
Hi everyone. I’m hoping to get some help. I tried the CA79 and the CA59. I love them both. I was wondering what made you decide on the 79 vs the 59. Thank you!
Hi everyone. I’m hoping to get some help. I tried the CA79 and the CA59. I love them both. I was wondering what made you decide on the 79 vs the 59. Thank you!
To be honest, we didn't even look at the CA59. We wanted the grand feel 3 action which the ca59 does not have. We liked the "hybrid grand" action on the Roland LX706 so the 79 was a direct comparison for us. Also, already for CAD$2000 less than the LX706 we didn't need to look lower than the 79.
I'm unable to use the Line OUT, and I don't understand why. Does it requires some software parameter to be activated ?
I just wired the Line OUT L/R (Double Jack to RCA) with a decent quality cable. First on my mix table (amplified), I also tried on my Yamaha Preamp. No sound come through?!
Can somebody tell me what I am missing ?
@Kawai James Hey, I am still waiting for Kawai service : Logo misaligned, and a oily stain on wood // since delivery. I'm waiting for months now (July)... My reseller contacted Kawai, but apparently they do nothing. It is really disconcerting, especially since I read on this forum that people with the Logo problem in particular, had a service from Kawai.
Hi everyone. I’m hoping to get some help. I tried the CA79 and the CA59. I love them both. I was wondering what made you decide on the 79 vs the 59. Thank you!
For me it was the touch and the speakers creating for me a clear improvement in sound and experience.
LGabrielPhoto, thanks for sharing the nice pictures - congrats on your new piano!
[quote=LGabrielPhoto]Why is the power cord NOT L-Shaped like the pedal one. I am annal and it bugs me to see the cord so I may try to find an L-Shaped replacement cord for it.
THanks ! I am trying to find something like that or the whole cord but the piano one is NEMA 1-15P polarized so is not rounded on both sides which is making it harder to find.
I cannot contact kawai france directly, because on the customer service webpage from Kawai France, they say that the first contact should be the retailer. So until now, no luck.
