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Getting a 1925 Steinway B next week
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Been restored. And…. now…. finally…. on the way!

Background:

A couple years ago, I started shopping for a grand. Along the way almost bought a new C3X Transacoustic2, was tempted by an Estonia and a Shigeru, and then came extremely close to buying a beautiful mahogany 1917 Steinway A3 last December in Arizona.

With the lockdown in February, I wondered if the opportunities had closed. And, somewhat reluctantly, decided to look online. But by then, I really knew exactly what I wanted and had a decent understanding of prices. So, seemed like a reasonable risk (will find out next week).

After lots of research I decided on a Steinway B from Lindeblad in May.

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Very exciting !!! Please post pictures and audio when delivered
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Congratulations on your 1925 Steinway B. I hope you enjoy it for many years. Please post pictures when it’s delivered. We love looking at pianos.


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If I understand their website correctly, you have a certain amount of time during which you can return the piano and get your money back. My advice would be to have a good tech available in case you want the piano adjusted to your liking if necessary and allowed by Lindeblad's policy.

Most of their pianos have recordings by excellent pianists so one can listen to the piano. Was that the case for the one you bought?

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Originally Posted by stemPianist
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After lots of research I decided on a Steinway B from Lindeblad in May.

Does that "lots of research" include having played this particular "B"?

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I hate to rain on your parade but since you mentioned the company name, I'd really take along a technician who knows something about vintage Steinways. I am afraid that he will will find the case of a 1925 Steinway with all the innards of a homemade soundboard, bridge, strings and maybe even some original Steinway parts in the action.

Unless you get a defintive answer as to the age of the soundboard and bridges, I'd be very hesitant to buy this piano.

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Originally Posted by OE1FEU
I hate to rain on your parade but since you mentioned the company name, I'd really take along a technician who knows something about vintage Steinways. I am afraid that he will will find the case of a 1925 Steinway with all the innards of a homemade soundboard, bridge, strings and maybe even some original Steinway parts in the action.

Unless you get a defintive answer as to the age of the soundboard and bridges, I'd be very hesitant to buy this piano.

Don't know how much OE1FEU knows about Lindeblad. I've visited a couple of times and I think they've had a pretty good reputation for their Steinway restorations for some years. I really think this is something of an alarmist view.

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Does that mean you have not had an independent tech look at it? I don’t know the company, but that is standard procedure. Good luck!


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Thanks everyone for the feedback!

dogperson/j&j - Good idea to post pictures. I will do that.

pianoloverus - Yes, they sent recordings and I asked for additional testing. Its not an ideal way to evaluate, but, I feel reasonably confident (hopeful? haha), the piano is close enough can be adjusted into my preferred range.
IosPlayer - And, they do have a guarantee and I have a great tech locally that is quite excited to take a look smile

BruceD - Great question. No, I did not play before restoration (or after... yet). I've played a lot of old Steinways (probably you all have), and so have some idea of what I like and don't like and tried to take that into account during the process.

OE1FEU - Yes, for sure. The soundboard, bridge and strings are new. For some reason your post made me laugh. In a good way. Maybe the way it was written. Thanks!

tend to rush - Yes, and, actually, that is part of why I skipped the A3 last year (different company). I played the piano. It was awesome. But, I juuust... well...had questions about the restoration history and process.

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I hate to rain on your parade but since you mentioned the company name, I'd really take along a technician who knows something about vintage Steinways. I am afraid that he will will find the case of a 1925 Steinway with all the innards of a homemade soundboard, bridge, strings and maybe even some original Steinway parts in the action.

Unless you get a defintive answer as to the age of the soundboard and bridges, I'd be very hesitant to buy this piano.

Don't know how much OE1FEU knows about Lindeblad. I've visited a couple of times and I think they've had a pretty good reputation for their Steinway restorations for some years. I really think this is something of an alarmist view.
I also find the statement unclear. What is a "homemade soundboard, bridge, and strings"? Homemade strings would imply that Lindeblad produces their own strings which I don't think any rebuilder does. I believe Lindeblad gives a detailed list of what part are replaced. Is he saying they are lying if they say the action is completely replaced? If the soundboard is listed as being replaced, then wouldn't the age of the soundboard be "new"?

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Originally Posted by tend to rush
Originally Posted by OE1FEU
I hate to rain on your parade but since you mentioned the company name, I'd really take along a technician who knows something about vintage Steinways. I am afraid that he will will find the case of a 1925 Steinway with all the innards of a homemade soundboard, bridge, strings and maybe even some original Steinway parts in the action.

Unless you get a defintive answer as to the age of the soundboard and bridges, I'd be very hesitant to buy this piano.

Don't know how much OE1FEU knows about Lindeblad. I've visited a couple of times and I think they've had a pretty good reputation for their Steinway restorations for some years. I really think this is something of an alarmist view.
I also find the statement unclear. What is a "homemade soundboard, bridge, and strings"? Homemade strings would imply that Lindeblad produces their own strings which I don't think any rebuilder does. I believe Lindeblad gives a detailed list of what part are replaced. Is he saying they are lying if they say the action is completely replaced? If the soundboard is listed as being replaced, then wouldn't the age of the soundboard be "new"?

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We know only a few sparse details about the OPs coming Steinway purchase from a rebuilder known to do the job well. I think we should be a bit more optimistic the OP knows what will be delivered.


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Congratulations on your newly rebuilt vintage Steinway. FWIW, when clients prefer certain vintages of Steinway, the 1920s are the most requested. I would not have the slightest concern that your rebuilder (in this case ) is not replacing the parts in your Steinway exactly as expected and agreed upon. Enjoy!

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Originally Posted by stemPianist
OE1FEU - Yes, for sure. The soundboard, bridge and strings are new. For some reason your post made me laugh. In a good way. Maybe the way it was written. Thanks!

Thanks, I've had a laugh as well.

You're going to buy a piano that has S&S on the fallboard and I hope you're happy with it.

My 1886 Steinway B is in the workshop right now for new bridge caps, agraffes and strings, but I'd never accepted a rebuild plan that had included a new soundboard, But there you go; different people, different view on things.

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Sounds exciting! I hope the delivery goes well.


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Congratulations! A well rebuilt Steinway can be a real pleasure to play! Please post pics and a recording when it arrives!


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Congratulations on your new Steinway B. I have watched many of Lindeblad's videos. I even spoke with Todd once. They have many videos of happy buyers on their website. The pianos usually sound very nice. I'll be excited to hear what your impressions are after you get your piano. Keep us posted!

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stemPianist: I'm happy and excited for you, and I'm very interested in the conclusion of your story (after the piano arrives, your tech looks at it, does whatever, and you play it). I'm saving to buy a (used) grand in the 7-foot range, and a Steinway B is on my list of potentials (together with Bechstein, Bosendorfer, Fazioli, etc.) I need to start traveling around to play them, but I figured I'd wait until I have the money in case I fall in love with a piano :-)

From the research I've done, if you're going to buy a restored Steinway not from Steinway themselves (they do have a certified pre-owned program), Lindeblad is the place to go. They told me they only use original Steinway parts. Also, if I understand correctly, when the soundboard needs to be replaced, the person making the new soundboard is someone who used to work at the Steinway factory making soundboards.

Please keep us posted and, yes, please post photos!


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I also find the statement unclear. What is a "homemade soundboard, bridge, and strings"? Homemade strings would imply that Lindeblad produces their own strings which I don't think any rebuilder does.

We know different rebuilders then.

My 1886 Steinway gets a whole new set of strings right now. The plain steel wires are going to be Röslau strings. The copper spun strings will be spun by the workshop master himself.

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I've been leery of Lindeblad since seeing deliberate misstatements in their advertisements. Don't know anything about their rebuilds, though.

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