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Chopin posthumous nocturne misprint?
#3045148 11/12/20 07:11 AM
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I am currently learning the Chopin nocturne in C# minor posthumous. As I have read several reviews of the Shirmer editions having misprints, I am struggling with measure 29, beat two. My score shows a B# (C natural) in the left hand against a C# in the right hand. Can anyone verify this to be correct and, if not, what are the correct notes?

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Re: Chopin posthumous nocturne misprint?
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I have the Henle edition of this music. It has two different copies of the same piece.

On the first copy (the one I learn't) Measure 29 goes
RH: [G# A# G# ](triplet quavers (1/8 notes?)) [F##(G natural) E# (F natural)](quavers) [E#](dotted crochet (1/4 note?)) [D#](quaver)
LH: [C##(D Natural) E# (F natural) B (natural) G# D# G# B# A (natural in brackets before it)] (quavers)

In the second version Measure 29 goes
RH: [C#(tr)](crochet) [B#(C natural) C#](quavers) [E](dotted crotchet] [D#] (quaver)
LH: [A D# C# F##(G natural) G# D# B# (C natural) G#] quavers

I can't quite match up either of these to what you are saying


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pianeric #3045172 11/12/20 08:56 AM
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You can check by yourself by going to IMSLP. They have the paderewski edition which is a very good one and it shows B# against C#. The B# is just the lower auxiliary to C#.

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I could not find the exact measure you were referring to. Because you are in the key of C# minor the B# is the accidental and occurs throughout the piece. There are several instances where the B# and C# are played at the same time, mostly in passing 8th notes. The dissonance is usually quickly resolved.



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What you have is correct. It is the second of akc42's examples but you've mixed up the hands. The B# is in RH and the C# in LH.


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