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Pianoteq on mono . . .
#3040777 10/29/20 04:54 PM
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Can't comment on VSTs other than Pianoteq, but whilst through headphones mono is a non-starter, sounds ghastly, through the piano's own speakers (VST connects via audio in) there seems little if any difference.in tone (although there are reverb levels etc that might be different. Don't know why, but on one or two of the pianos they are).
Anybody else noticed this?
Are other VSTs similarly affected?


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Re: Pianoteq on mono . . .
peterws #3040790 10/29/20 05:38 PM
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My _guess_ is that the room resonances, when you listen to a mono reproduction, add some interest to the sound - what the left ear hears, isn't _exactly_ what the right ear hears. Whereas headphones will give you exactly the same signal in both ears, and "sounds ghastly!" is how the brain reacts to this unusual situation.

You could test this:

Make a mono recording.

Run it through some reverb software, and feed it to the left ear;

Run it through the same reverb software, _but with somewhat different parameters_, and feed it to the right ear;

. . . Is it still ghastly ?

You want to set the left and right signals to have similar decay times, but different ways of getting them. (I'll stop before you learn how little I know about the design of reverb simulations.)


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Re: Pianoteq on mono . . .
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Originally Posted by Charles Cohen
(I'll stop before you learn how little I know about the design of reverb simulations.)

Too Late .... laugh


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Re: Pianoteq on mono . . .
peterws #3040812 10/29/20 06:55 PM
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When you listen to a sound source in a room, you hear the early reflections which have a huge effect on how you perceive the sound. When you listen to a stereo recording in mono on headphones, it can sound worse than a mono recording. Spaced mic techniques (or the simulated equivalent in Pianoteq) aren't mono compatible. Mono doesn't necessarily sound bad.

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I do remember using a CLP820S for a function, during the Millenium Celebrations. I had only a mono amp; so naturally you use the L/Mono lineout for this purpose.
It was dreadful, dreadful. I was new to this stuff then and knew nothing about phasing and stuff. All that had happened was the two channels had connected into a single source.
Outputted seperately, but through a stereo amplifier.later on, I used the same piano regularly and it sounded excellent.


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