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Question about HP704 and acoustic pianos
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Hi, I need to replace my DP, and I'm thinking about the Roland HP704. In my house I also have an acoustic piano, but I can play it rarely since my work allows me to play only on late night.

My question is: if you have a piano based on PHA-50, can you switch well to acoustic piano? Are you able to adapt quickly and replicate well what you have learned a few days before on the digital piano? (let's say "grade 5" pieces).

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PHA-50 is generally regarded as one of the best before we go into "true hybrid" actions. Adapting quickly would be a really personal thing. I can only add anecdote that I've seen teachers play on PHA-50 and then on acoustics several minutes apart with no little trouble.

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Acoustic actions are not all the same, so are not the digital ones. I think you should try also some others like Kawai CN37, CA59/79, Casio GP310, Yamaha CLP735/745.

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All of the ‘grand piano’ comparisons perhaps lead to disappointment with many digital piano actions...

...think of PHA-50 as a good upright action, then try it yourself.

Friends, whom have acoustic pianos at home, have tried mine and commented on how good it is to play. So far so good! 👍


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Hi, I'm not asking how good is the PHA-50 or how similar is to an acoustic piano, there are hundreths of message about this.

If possible, I'm just asking an opinion from who really switches every week.

For example, at the moment I'm using a GH3 and I'm switching very well, despite its feeling is completely different. Maybe the only problem is different "pp" which causes me some missing notes at the beginning. Trying the piano at the shop will not solve my problem, I already did that in the past.

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Originally Posted by paxel
Hi, I'm not asking how good is the PHA-50 or how similar is to an acoustic piano, there are hundreths of message about this.

If possible, I'm just asking an opinion from who really switches every week.

For example, at the moment I'm using a GH3 and I'm switching very well, despite its feeling is completely different. Maybe the only problem is different "pp" which causes me some missing notes at the beginning. Trying the piano at the shop will not solve my problem, I already did that in the past.
Surely Kougeru has answered your question. And yes, when I had the LX7 switching was no problem.


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It's not necessarily about the action; any action can be set up, using different dynamic aspects, to create an easy to play pp or one which requires a more "experienced" approach, if you see what I mean. Chances are if you make the adjustments to whatever digital you get, that similar experience of playing may be achievable.
Just a thought.


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Good choice. I really like the PHA-50 and I transition very easily to and from my Steinway A. But, I am only an early intermediate 75 year old in my fourth year of piano. I think it all depends on your level, and the sophistication of your requirements. On average, I play 1/2 hour every day on the acoustic, another 1/2 hour on a harpsichord or organ, and a full hour on the Roland.



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I have the PHA-50 in my DP-603, and I don't find I have any problem sitting down at an acoustic piano and playing, at least, no more problem than I would have switching between any two pianos, digital or acoustic.


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