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#3039789 10/27/20 07:44 AM
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There are some brands with a distinctive logo, others show just the name. I thought it could be funny getting to know peoples opinion about it. So, what is the brand logo you find it most beautiful or interesting?

Personally, as I declared in another thread, I find the actual logo of Estonia pianos to be the most beautiful of all, seconded by the Sauter, Steinway in 3rd and Yamaha in 4th place.

Don't know if you find this of interest, but I think a nice logo adds beauty to the instrument.


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Originally Posted by Fluxo
Don't know if you find this of interest, but I think a nice logo adds beauty to the instrument.

I tend to agree, it captures either the history of the make or current trends in graphic design (or misses the mark entirely). I also feel that soundboard decals, case side logos (on large concert pianos) and decorative plate elements matter to the aesthetics of the instrument. It's often messed up by being overdone or including needless verbiage. And then there's the choice of plate color, decorative inner rims, felt color, and the presence or absence (along with the width) of the rope that's laid between the soundboard and rim...

After this thread, you should start another with, "What logos/design features do you dislike?" and I can make a pandemic-fueled negative list for you!


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I love the look of the Estonia logo and Soundboard emblem. Also Bosendorfer. Bluthner, and of course Steinway. Just my opinion but the Yamaha and Kawai fallboard emblems are a bit plain Jane but they do have gorgeous soundboard emblems. I haven’t seen Sauter’s so I just don’t know. I’m sure it’s gorgeous too. With very modern furniture I think the plain script on both Yamaha and Kawai look better.


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Estonia has had at least three logos that I know of. My Estonia 168 had a logo which consisted of a lyre with the words "Tallinn 1893" in a banner across the lyre and the word "Estonia" underneath. I can't find an example online, but I may be able to reproduce the photo I have of the logo.

If I remember correctly, Steinway had a legal issue with the lyre on Estonia's logo and that (maybe?) was the reason that the logo was changed to the current one.

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I was going to say Estonia as well. I've always found their emblem attractive.


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LOL, here is my favorite:
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I do like the old Baldwin logo, but on a serious note, there are many beautiful logos. And as TD pointed out, many of the design elements can be quite beautiful! A piano can be a work of art even apart from the music made on it.


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LOL, here is my favorite:
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Hah! Don't let the Federal Trade Commission see that:

From their website:

"Made in USA means that “all or virtually all” the product has been made in America. That is, all significant parts, processing, and labor that go into the product must be of U.S. origin. Products should not contain any – or should contain only negligible – foreign content." (italics added)

https://www.ftc.gov/news-events/media-resources/tools-consumers/made-usa

Are there any pianos still manufactured in the United States with U.S.-origin plate, soundboard, rim, keys, action parts, hammers, and strings?

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LOL, here is my favorite:
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Hah! Don't let the Federal Trade Commission see that:

From their website:

"Made in USA means that “all or virtually all” the product has been made in America. That is, all significant parts, processing, and labor that go into the product must be of U.S. origin. Products should not contain any – or should contain only negligible – foreign content." (italics added)

https://www.ftc.gov/news-events/media-resources/tools-consumers/made-usa

Are there any pianos still manufactured in the United States with U.S.-origin plate, soundboard, rim, keys, action parts, hammers, and strings?

Larry.

As far as I know, Mason & Hamlin uses US woods for everything (rim, beams, pinblocks, bridges, soundboard, lid, lyres, legs, etc.), US made wet sand cast iron plates (Steinway's O.S.Kelly), US made Mapes strings (at least for some models), US made WNG action with mostly US made parts (raw carbon sheets are most likely imported, and hammer felt is imported as well - Wurzen and Abel). May be, some hardware and tension resonator parts are imported.
So yes, it is US made.


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I do like the simplicity of Petrof's logo, as well as the new M&H one. Nice looking but not gaudy.

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I like the Old World font, used by Bösendorfer & Steingraeber

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Originally Posted by VladK
As far as I know, Mason & Hamlin uses US woods for everything (rim, beams, pinblocks, bridges, soundboard, lid, lyres, legs, etc.), US made wet sand cast iron plates (Steinway's O.S.Kelly), US made Mapes strings (at least for some models), US made WNG action with mostly US made parts (raw carbon sheets are most likely imported, and hammer felt is imported as well - Wurzen and Abel). May be, some hardware and tension resonator parts are imported.
So yes, it is US made.

This doesn’t matter much to me in terms of recommending one, but when I toured the factory, I remember hearing the plates for (then) current production were not sourced from Kelly. Also I don’t remember seeing action making equipment there. Just trying to keep my facts straight—thanks for any clarification.


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Bösendorfer probably my favorite, but like Estonia and Steinway as well.

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Originally Posted by BruceD
If I remember correctly, Steinway had a legal issue with the lyre on Estonia's logo and that (maybe?) was the reason that the logo was changed to the current one.

Yes, Indrek received a "cease and desist" letter. He changed the logo because of that.


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