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Glenn Gould - On the Record
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I find this inspiring. Additionally, to me, this is an example of the authentic Steinway sound, only available on the vintage instruments. A nod to Ed McMarrow here, one part of the recipe is the comparatively lighter hammer. Enjoy!

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Originally Posted by Keith D Kerman
I find this inspiring.

Agreed - I am in the middle of watching it right now. Thank you for sharing.

(I think you may have also originally shared the videos of Gould rehearsing in his "country home" on his Chickering. Thank you for that as well.)


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(I think you may have also originally shared the videos of Gould rehearsing in his "country home" on his Chickering.


I believe that's included in Gould Off the Record, the companion piece to On the Record.

Both are great documentaries. I enjoy Howard Scott's interactions with Gould quite a bit.


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I enjoyed it too.

Speaking of Scott, I was surprised to see him following the score while Gould was playing. I guess I've seen too many "behind the scenes" with various pop groups lately (trying to be mom and dad to my girls these days...).



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I have just come back here to watch this video a second time. Along with other videos of Gould that Keith has posted in the past, this is a great documentary.

I am surprised it is not getting more love here on PW.


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Before the internets I actually ordered a dvd of this through the mail. Interesting at the beginning to see Gould's characteristic avoidance of the hand shakes - almost like a modern covid greeting. Love the behind the scenes banter and especially love watching him play the andante. We are lucky this exists. Thanks for posting Keith.


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Year ago I had a recording of Glen Gould playing Preludes Fugues from the WTC. I could clearly hear him humming in the background. As I was keenly studying these pieces at the time ,I found his humming as instructive.
Later on I was distracted by this . I have always been fascinated by his playing of Bach.
With a few other composers he would really do his "own thing" and ignor the composers wishes.

The Steinway certainly sounded gorgeous. Thank you an interesting documentary.

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I do love it, Rich--- and a big love "Thank You" to Keith, not only for sharing these moments before they evaporated, but for realizing their significance.

It is a great and deep mystery, this gift of talent. It fascinates me; it seems to cast light on a great range of feeling and behavior, which are mysteries of their own (even as they illuminate the truth by their own radiance). It is one reason I love to read published biographies of musicians. and there's quite a bit about Glen Gould, some of it quite good. Second-hand bookstores and possibly the online dealers are the best sources, for by this time these titles are long out of release.

My last piano teacher suggested that I use YouTube as a study tool, to watch the great concert artists at their work of performance (from the best seat in the house). I have dragged my feet on that one, but of course he was right. It is a study aid that has transformed all of education. Reading a print description is one aspect, and if it cannot actually capture the activity of genius in the moment it happens, it can still chock quite a bit of information in, on-the-fly. One book that I have about Gould's life is almost all black-and-white photos, such as the photography output of fashion studios and some art photographers, and a few news photographers were creating at the time, with the cameras and films and photo print papers that were available back then. (It was during these years that Diane Arbus was working with these same tools, but that's another window into a different branch of the story.)

Having learned it the hard way, I would suggest that Glen Gould is a better artist to enjoy by listening, by trying to understand music from his point-of-view, and not such a one to offer his fans and students a good personal example to emulate. He was in agony from issues with back and hand troubles which, we now know, you don't really have to have. Lot of pills and drugs, not for kicks but to try to turn down the volume on the pain. His life seemed to be a lonely one; no long-term partner, not a lot of friends. To have a talent possess a life, and work through its human instrument, really is to be alone (just as it also is to never be alone). But, there it is: you have your Rachmaninoffs and you have your Goulds. Speedboat trips with his house guests on the lake at his Swiss summer home, poker parties, after-dinner concerts; lots of fun, then back to work, handling many personal responsibilities in the course of long life. Or Gould's life, which seems very austere to the external student, and which ended much earlier than we might have hoped, and perhaps with less happiness than we would have granted. Even, at the very same time, that he was a very popular performer and did have the big love from his audiences (for the most part).

But, he seemed happy enough during these studio sessions... actually, I don't think 'happy' covers it. It's some variety of 'joy.' I've been paying attention, lately, to other artists, so thanks so much for drawing my attention back to an old favorite. I can, and will, make time in my life for this kind of study.


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I love this documentary. Thanks for sharing. (Now I’m going to re-read “A Romance on Three Legs”.)


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Actually I meant years ago , when I was still a student .Sometimes times seems compressed now , yes well over 50 years ago. When "how to play Bach" was still a mystery to me. What I learned from his recordings was how articulation could add to trying to achieve an amazing sense of rhythm .
At that time the discovery of phrasing and articulation in Baroque music was just so important. "Emulate" ,perhaps when I was a student that is exactly what I would do to a degree .I would emulate Goulds playing. (as best as I could )

The Beatles may have been pop stars but to me so was Gould.
Yes I emulated Gould's articulation and phrasing, besides I needed to learn those Preludes and Fugues quickly to satisfy my teacher, at 17 I had other things I wanted to do ,apart from playing Bach ,certainly at times I did not appreciate Bach and his Fugues but then I was was young.
However I loved that recording and I remember the day I was able to aquire another -- The Goldberg Variations, what a joy at that discovery.

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Thanks Keith for posting this. So nice to see Gould before his mental state and health suffered from his descent into obsession. He was a brilliant person.

The piano sounded marvelous. I noticed they kept the fall board off.


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