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Roland F140r - Would you recommend it?
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Hi,

Does anyone own a Roland f140r? Would you recommend this keyboard?

My music goals are directed towards classical, Yiruma, hopefully Joe Hisaishi (Studio Ghibli), Ludovico Einaudi.
Not jazz/blues and I don't think I will be using the different features/voices options in the digital pianos.

Also, at what stage do you recommend a beginner piano player make such an expensive purchase? I started piano lessons in January 2020 and am currently working on the 2nd Alfred's adult all in one book. I would love to practice on a better keyboard but the huge price is making me reluctant about buying one sooner.

(I posted this is another forum and was suggested to ask this here as well.)

Thanks!

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Well, it's technically very similar to the Roland FP-30, so opinions on that (they vary) apply quite well to the F-140R too.

(And the FP-30 would be a cheaper option.)

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What are you playing on, right now?

. . . What is your budget?

- - - - - I see -- the thread is in the "Adult Beginners" forum . . .

I agree with the general opinion there:

. . . If you want to play piano, get something with 88 _weighted_ keys ASAP.

It doesn't have to be an F-140R. A Casio PX-160 / Yamaha P125 (or P115) / Kawai ES-110 / Roland FP30 or FP10 (which is missing some useful features on the FP30) would be fine.

I haven't felt any difference between "synth-action" and "semi-weighted" keyboards.

. . But _weighted_ (or "hammer-action") keyboards really _are_ different,
. . . and much closer to acoustic piano "feel",
. . . . and much easier to control dynamics on.

I re-started about seven years ago, with a synth action keyboard. I upgraded to a weighted keyboard (the PX-350) after about three months.

Everything that you want to learn, you could learn on those instruments.

Good luck!


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Re: Roland F140r - Would you recommend it?
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Originally Posted by clothearednincompo
Well, it's technically very similar to the Roland FP-30, so opinions on that (they vary) apply quite well to the F-140R too.

(And the FP-30 would be a cheaper option.)

I read/heard somewhere that 140R has better acoustic feel than the FP-10, FP-30. Is that not true?


Originally Posted by Charles Cohen
It doesn't have to be an F-140R. A Casio PX-160 / Yamaha P125 (or P115) / Kawai ES-110 / Roland FP30 or FP10 (which is missing some useful features on the FP30) would be fine.

I don't wish to keep on upgrading every few years. I would rather save and get a decent intermediate level digital piano (like F-140R) than get a weighted beginner DP for 2-3 years and upgrade it again.

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What I suggest is try a Yamaha P515 or similar range if you are sure you will keep with piano.


All these years playing and I still consider myself a novice.
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What I suggest is try a Yamaha P515 or similar range if you are sure you will keep with piano.

Thanks for the suggestion. I will look it up.

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And then look into the Kawai ES110.

High quality instrument for less than $1000.


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And then look into the Kawai ES110.

High quality instrument for less than $1000.

Thanks, will do.

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For F140r vs FP30:

http://forum.pianoworld.com/ubbthreads.php/topics/2509965/Roland__FP-30_or_Roland_F140R.html

I did adjust the touch to "hard", and that fixed my complaint about the touch response.

IMHO, the P515 is a significant step up from either one, if you can afford it.


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Originally Posted by Pikka
Originally Posted by clothearednincompo
Well, it's technically very similar to the Roland FP-30, so opinions on that (they vary) apply quite well to the F-140R too.

(And the FP-30 would be a cheaper option.)

I read/heard somewhere that 140R has better acoustic feel than the FP-10, FP-30. Is that not true?


Originally Posted by Charles Cohen
It doesn't have to be an F-140R. A Casio PX-160 / Yamaha P125 (or P115) / Kawai ES-110 / Roland FP30 or FP10 (which is missing some useful features on the FP30) would be fine.

I don't wish to keep on upgrading every few years. I would rather save and get a decent intermediate level digital piano (like F-140R) than get a weighted beginner DP for 2-3 years and upgrade it again.

F-140R has on paper the same piano technology as FP-30, so it is the console version of an entry-level piano.

If you want more advanced technology, look FP-90 / DP-603 - Yamaha P515, Kawai ES920, or their console cousins - Clavinovas, CN and CA series.


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Originally Posted by Pikka
Originally Posted by clothearednincompo
Well, it's technically very similar to the Roland FP-30, so opinions on that (they vary) apply quite well to the F-140R too.

(And the FP-30 would be a cheaper option.)

I read/heard somewhere that 140R has better acoustic feel than the FP-10, FP-30. Is that not true?


Originally Posted by Charles Cohen
It doesn't have to be an F-140R. A Casio PX-160 / Yamaha P125 (or P115) / Kawai ES-110 / Roland FP30 or FP10 (which is missing some useful features on the FP30) would be fine.

I don't wish to keep on upgrading every few years. I would rather save and get a decent intermediate level digital piano (like F-140R) than get a weighted beginner DP for 2-3 years and upgrade it again.

F-140R has on paper the same piano technology as FP-30, so it is the console version of an entry-level piano.

If you want more advanced technology, look FP-90 / DP-603 - Yamaha P515, Kawai ES920, or their console cousins - Clavinovas, CN and CA series.

I looked up and realized that F-140R has the PHA-4 and FP-90 has the PHA-50 action. Thanks so much for clarifying this. I was shortlisting my options based on wrong information.

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Originally Posted by Charles Cohen
For F140r vs FP30:

http://forum.pianoworld.com/ubbthreads.php/topics/2509965/Roland__FP-30_or_Roland_F140R.html

I did adjust the touch to "hard", and that fixed my complaint about the touch response.

IMHO, the P515 is a significant step up from either one, if you can afford it.

Thanks Charles for the forum link! It was very helpful.


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