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What is a folded action?
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Stupidly easy question for most of you, but I googled for it and couldn't find any definition. Could someone let me know what is a FOLDED action?

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Not folded (The key stick continues beyond the pivot point.):

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Folded:

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The hammer mechanism is "folded back" under the key, instead of it being behind the key as it is on a real piano. It allows the design to be much more compact.

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Oh great it makes perfectly sense now. Thank you guys you are great! I wouldn't have guessed alone.

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That site is interesting. So the RM3II action on the VPC1 is technically an earlier version of the Grand Feel Compact action. Fascinating to see the history behind it all. smile

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Action folding is a back-breaking job. I know this first hand because my grandfather was a master action folder. I remember coming to the factory as child to help my grandpa fold actions, and it was not fun you guys.

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Originally Posted by Pete14
Action folding is a back-breaking job. I know this first hand because my grandfather was a master action folder. I remember coming to the factory as child to help my grandpa fold actions, and it was not fun you guys.

What was your father doing?


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And I always thought that "folded action" was a form of yoga!
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Action folding is a back-breaking job. I know this first hand because my grandfather was a master action folder. I remember coming to the factory as child to help my grandpa fold actions, and it was not fun you guys.

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Originally Posted by Pete14
Action folding is a back-breaking job. I know this first hand because my grandfather was a master action folder. I remember coming to the factory as child to help my grandpa fold actions, and it was not fun you guys.
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Originally Posted by Pete14
Action folding is a back-breaking job. I know this first hand because my grandfather was a master action folder. I remember coming to the factory as child to help my grandpa fold actions, and it was not fun you guys.
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Originally Posted by Pete14
Action folding is a back-breaking job. I know this first hand because my grandfather was a master action folder. I remember coming to the factory as child to help my grandpa fold actions, and it was not fun you guys.

That’s nothing compared to the horrors file folders must endure.


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Originally Posted by Pete14
Action folding is a back-breaking job. I know this first hand because my grandfather was a master action folder.

And now they use robots?

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http://www.midiplus.com/html/FP88.html

Foldable 88 keys piano action

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You guys kid, but this is not funny, making fun of my grandpa!

No, he was not an engineer, a doctor, or a fancy lawyer, but he was a master folder.

He folded them actions with pride and never complained.

All you guys do is complain; but try spending six days a week folding actions, and then, only then, will you know just how easy you have it.

Shame on you for mocking my grandpa’s legacy!

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Are the Japanese folded actions more complicated than let's say Fatar actions?

In the spirit of Origami?

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About your grandpa ... was his name Action?
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... all you guys do is complain; but try spending six days a week folding actions, and then, only then, will you know just how easy you have it.
Shame on you for mocking my grandpa’s legacy!

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Originally Posted by Pete14
You guys kid, but this is not funny, making fun of my grandpa!

No, he was not an engineer, a doctor, or a fancy lawyer, but he was a master folder.

He folded them actions with pride and never complained.

All you guys do is complain; but try spending six days a week folding actions, and then, only then, will you know just how easy you have it.

Shame on you for mocking my grandpa’s legacy!

Well, I guess it's true what they say: Once a folder, always a folder! I can imagine that on his (very, very rare) days off, at home, he was mostly seen folding beds and folding chairs and folding doors, etc.? That's what I like so much about your beloved grandpa's generation: their dedication, their striving for perfection!

So, Pete14, I'm very happy for you that you had someone to look up to, and I hope you have the same dedication when it comes to measuring pivot lengths and music rest widths, and playing with your marble balls. RIP, Pete14's grandpa.


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Thanks for your comforting words, Mickey!

At least someone ‘round here has some respect for the ‘greatest generation’.

These millennials don’t get it; they’ve gotten used to tapping on a screen and things magically happening!

There was no “DoorDash” in my grandpa’s days; if you wanted food, you grew it, you picked it, you milked it, and you fed it (for further butchering), and then you brought it home for the wife to cook. On top of that, you also had to work in factories like the one my grandpa worked at......... folding actions!

And yes, as you suggest, his folding extended beyond the action; heck, he once folded my grandma into a pretzel. He was also fond of folding around with the neighbor’s wife, but I have no idea what they were folding. All I remember is him heading on to the neighbors to, as he would put it, ‘fold around’!

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