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Chopin-Godowsky 25-6 thirds
#3036824 10/17/20 10:00 PM
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It only took 7.5 years for my jumps to get good enough to play this haha. Hope you enjoy my exhibition of pain.

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trigalg693 #3036831 10/17/20 10:33 PM
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That looks hard.

Good job!


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Good effort! Thanks for sharing.

Still I don’t get the motivation why Godowsky wrote this. Original etude is very useful and it makes sense to study it. Not so with this one IMO.

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Hakki #3036990 10/18/20 12:25 PM
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Originally Posted by Hakki
Good effort! Thanks for sharing.

Still I don’t get the motivation why Godowsky wrote this. Original etude is very useful and it makes sense to study it. Not so with this one IMO.
It seems to work on thirds in the LH and jumps so why is it not useful?

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Originally Posted by pianoloverus
It seems to work on thirds in the LH and jumps so why is it not useful?

He commented last time I posted a Godowsky etude saying the same thing, and that argument went nowhere. I play this and the Godowsky etude no.1 because I can, and because I've already gotten the original Chopin etudes up to the physical limit of my fingers. I appreciate that Godowsky wrote these, enough said.

The left hand thirds aren't that hard; the right hand took almost just as much practice since the jumps are so difficult. The interesting thing about this study is that typically, the left hand does more jumping and the right hand has more fast notes, and this one is the complete opposite. I find that when I play piano typically I am more aware of what my right hand is doing, and my left hand is kind of on autopilot. This etude is useful for "expanding mental bandwidth" since the left hand needs to be played very deliberately while the right hand is doing all the crazy jumping.

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trigalg693 #3037087 10/18/20 04:12 PM
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You do play with quite a bit of ulnar deviation, though. Are you aware of that? I'm not sure how to help you with that because I don't know this piece, and it doesn't look like any adjustment in sitting posture/position is possible, given the cross-hand moves.

Ulnar deviation is not a problem until it gets you fatigued.

Anyway, you have some mad chops.


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AZNpiano #3037164 10/18/20 08:08 PM
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Originally Posted by AZNpiano
You do play with quite a bit of ulnar deviation, though. Are you aware of that?

General remarks from Godowsky: "..the performer should sit more to the right of the keyboard, so that the greater part of the keyboard is within convenient reach of the left hand."

The left hand has to play in the 6th octave (extreme ulnar deviation, really uncomfortable for a few moments), and the right hand has to play B2 and C8, so I'm sitting all the way to the right of the bench, and leaning over a little bit to the left to play the low notes. I actually pedal with my left foot so I can rotate my body more towards the right, so I can use my right leg as a counterweight for leaning over.

It looks pretty funny!

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Oh when I go and watch it again, you might be seeing my raised wrist. The camera is at a 45 degree angle to the keyboard so it looks like it could be the wrist bending horizontally. I play chords with a fairly high wrist, hasn't been a problem. The only times I get any fatigue are Chopin 10-1/2 and passages like the end of La Campanella.

Thanks for the comment!

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I am monumentally impressed by this. I think your hard work (and pain) have paid off. Well done, indeed!


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I am monumentally impressed by this. I think your hard work (and pain) have paid off. Well done, indeed!

+1. This is very impressive and inspirational. Thank you for sharing!

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Just for fun, I made one of these too (inspired by Rosseau/Kassia/Traum on Youtube):


(no, I did not play it that well on a digital piano, I had to edit a lot of notes to make it visually appealing and sound nice)


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