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Wild dance for piano
#3033771 10/09/20 11:04 AM
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Hi all there, I would like some comments to my new piece. It is written in 'tonal' style, a wild dance with moods, easy stumbling, wild runs and finally a syncopated whirlwind...

Unfortunately, I am no pianist (but I do a lot of music in small string ensembles with the violin) - my composition has been created with VST software.

YouTube Wild Dance for piano

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waldHoerer #3033940 10/09/20 08:13 PM
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That was a pretty amazing piece. Sounds utterly impossible to play...good luck finding a pianist who can manage that! And I thought my stuff was hard...

My only criticism is it doesn't sound like a piano, and there aren't any dynamics with the notes (that I could tell) so it sounded very mechanical. Without dynamics, you lose a lot of feeling. It's difficult to program but well worth the effort.

On the other hand, the piece sort of lends itself to the type of sound you created, so it kind of works anyway. Pretty weird, actually. But good!

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MilesAbbott #3034020 10/10/20 04:21 AM
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Hi MilesAbbott, thanks a lot for your opinion, this is very important for me.
Sure - I'm no pianist - but I think the piece should be playable, the left and right hands are in normal ranges and at max in standard triad or power chord patterns. But sure it will not be easy...
Yes, my mechanical computer-piano is a problem, but I will work on the dynamics sampling, hope to be able to make a new mp3 in a few weeks...

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waldHoerer #3035016 10/13/20 02:59 AM
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Hi to all listeners, many thnx for visiting my YouTube link, I'm very happy - its so hard to get any audience...
Question: Anyone good tips to get more visits on YouTube?

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waldHoerer #3035152 10/13/20 12:02 PM
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some parts sound literally unplayable, at least at that tempo


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waldHoerer #3035207 10/13/20 02:43 PM
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Hi Cheeto717, yes this will be hopefully currently checked - since I want my pieces in real be playable, I should be more accurate with my score. And tempo is not that important, think the piece can be very nice if played slower... Very sorry for computer-piano speed it is much too easy to set.

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waldHoerer #3035326 10/13/20 08:25 PM
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My advice:
- If you think the piece would be nice if played slower, that is what you should present. It does not sound playable, regardless of whether it is.
- the Metallic, non-piano sound is very off-putting... I’m afraid you will discourage listening to the entire piece
- scroll the score with the YouTube audio


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waldHoerer #3035404 10/14/20 03:25 AM
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Hi dogperson, I fully agree with you!
I will work out a new version, hope to get a better feeling then.
Thank you very much, this was a good hint for me

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waldHoerer #3036815 10/17/20 10:06 PM
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Maybe Franz Liszt could do it...

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waldHoerer #3037333 10/19/20 11:40 AM
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This is a very ambitious piece of music. You've tried to compose a virtuoso piece. Without seeing the score it's difficult to assess its playability, but the speed is impressive. But being honest the musical ideas don't strike me as particularly memorable. The beginning has some musical ideas that are somewhat memorable but none of them so far (I'm 4 minutes into a piece that lasts less than 5) sound like anything that will stick in my mind longer than the piece itself. Your musical themes are the characters of your drama. In this piece you became enamored of velocity at the expense of melody. IMO this piece reminds me of the Emperor's comment to Mozart in the movie Amadeus, "Too many notes!"

You have obvious musical skills. Rather than try to impress us with a torrent of notes why not try to impress us with a tender melody. Writing a simple melody that stays in the mind is a very difficult thing that takes practice. My suggestion would be to concentrate on that and once melody is mastered you can then bring your musicals skills to bear in a more focused manner to write something more substantive.


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