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#3036406 10/16/20 04:56 PM
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I want a pretty nice digital piano for playing and practicing.

I think that I have a notion of what Yamaha to look at. I would look CLP 600 or 700 series, increasing according to quality, and also AvantGrande hybrids or -possibly- P-515. Perhaps preferably CLP 645 or above.
I think that I can get an idea of what the Kawai lines are. Hopefully I don't overlook anything.

I don't think that I have yet sorted out Roland lines. What should I do to have an idea of what I am looking for?

(In the end, I guess I am looking for anything the dealerships have in stock,...)

Also, I see that some of digital piano/keyboard lines will be available at one dealership and some at another. E.g., I want a 'digital piano' and presumably the piano dealerships get those lines, but again, maybe some of the lines that go to Guitar Center might be good enough for my digital piano setup.

Thanks again.

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Originally Posted by winterflower
I don't think that I have yet sorted out Roland lines. What should I do to have an idea of what I am looking for?

The blunt answer would be: "Go to www.roland.com". 😀

But more seriously their "lines" are something like:
- FP: portable pianos with speakers, they vary from low-end to high-end and cheap to expensive. Currently the high-end FP-90 doesn't have Roland's latest and greatest tech, but that's because it's been out for a while already. The FP-10/30 are quite low-end (for Roland) but competitive with the cheap models from Yamaha/Kawai/Casio for example. FP-60 is somewhere in the middle.
- RP: cabinet digital pianos with quite low-end tech (again for Roland, but still perfectly modern tech) and moderate prices, An RP-501R for example has similar tech as the FP-30 plus some extra features.
- F: compact models, otherwise similar to RP, so an F-140R is pretty much the same as an RP-501R.
- DP: compact models with higher end tech. But the DP-603 has been out for a while now, so it doesn't have the absolutely latest and greatest that Roland has to offer. Not cheap.
- HP: mid and high range models in fancy cabinets.
- LX: premium models with elaborate speaker systems and fancy cabinets
- RD: stage pianos, mostly without speakers the RD-88 being an exception
- Kiyola: A "designer piano" with quite high end tech.

Something in the HP line would be the most likely competitors for e.g. a Yamaha CLP-745.

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This is confusing ...
Originally Posted by winterflower
I would look CLP 600 or 700 series, increasing according to quality, and also AvantGrande hybrids or -possibly- P515. Perhaps preferably CLP 645 or above.
You've covered most the Yamaha range, from around $1,500 to nearly $15,000.

Maybe try out some of these pianos (and the Kawais) and narrow your range, based on preference and budget.

(I can't comment on Rolands. The only Rolands I've seen here in Raleigh were are FP models, which are probably not what you're looking for. The better models are nowhere to be found.)

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Originally Posted by winterflower
I want a pretty nice digital piano for playing and practicing.

I think that I have a notion of what Yamaha to look at. I would look CLP 600 or 700 series, increasing according to quality, and also AvantGrande hybrids or -possibly- P-515. Perhaps preferably CLP 645 or above.
I think that I can get an idea of what the Kawai lines are. Hopefully I don't overlook anything.

I don't think that I have yet sorted out Roland lines. What should I do to have an idea of what I am looking for?

(In the end, I guess I am looking for anything the dealerships have in stock,...)

Also, I see that some of digital piano/keyboard lines will be available at one dealership and some at another. E.g., I want a 'digital piano' and presumably the piano dealerships get those lines, but again, maybe some of the lines that go to Guitar Center might be good enough for my digital piano setup.

Thanks again.

Mac is right, you should limit your budget, or if budget isn't an issue, then hybrid pianos are the top of the pile.

Hybrid pianos

Avant Grand N1X to N3X
Kawai Novus NV10

These are what most people here would love to own if money were no option.


Semi-Hybrid

Casio GP510

Top tier non hybrid

Roland V-piano Grand (fully modelled sound)

Roland LX708
Kawai CA99
Yamaha CLP785 (grand vs. 795)

Second Tier non hybrid

Roland LX706
Kawai CA79
Yamaha CLP775

As Mac points out, there are about 4 more tiers below these.

As someone pointed out about lock-down: it's all ended in tiers.


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