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OT Clapping in south country folk music
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This is not a piano related question, but more about music in general. I've been playing guitar since i was a child so I've developed interest in many musical styles where guitar plays an important role, such as country music. And one thing I've observed and never really understood is the rhythmic clapping many people does accompanying country tunes. It is kind of clapping of beat, but not exactly. Some of you can give me some insight about how does it work? Some examples about it:
In the first video all people on stage is clapping in this way i dont understand. In second and third you can see many people in the audience doing it. I try to imitate them and feels really strange, it feels as if when the bit comes you separate your hands, i don't how to call it, maybe clapping towards the outside? I don't know.



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A lot of country music, or folk music of the American south is written in 2/2 time. This is commonly called cut time.
The all-star cast in the first video are clapping on the off-beat.

You can think of it as 1 - AND - 2 - AND - 1 - AND - 2 - AND. etc. People clap on the word AND.
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This is a very common guitar rhythm in country and folk.


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It's a big topic. Those of us who are "squares" clap on 1 and 3, and find it hard to switch to 2 and 4 which is the cool bluesy type thing; while those used to the latter, struggle to do 1 and 3. Googling it I found this cool one, where the pianist gets the 1-3 clappers to switch to 2-4 by adding one beat to a measure so that they are now off-beat.

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Originally Posted by keystring
I watched this a long time ago.
Interestingly, someone encounters this for the first time in Country music. I saw for the first time 2 and 4 clapping at a very fast pace at the Albert McNeil Jubilee Singers concert; and think the tradition comes from there.
Any musician, including a classical one, must understand that rhythm isn't a counting's or metronome's function, but a part of culture and is studied together with this culture, at least to a limited extent.

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Thanks for the answers. That's exactly what i was looking for

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Originally Posted by keystring
That is a very diplomatically stated.

Audiences can be exuberent, and that's good. Problem being, audiences keep notoriously poor timing. One gets tempted to go with the audiences beat. Sometimes the audience clapping drowns out the rythm section. That's a sick feeling for me, and comes at the worst time. If i recall, i remember the late John Denver, discouraged clapping. It did not engraciate him with the audience.


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