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Fixing unisons
#3033197 10/07/20 05:13 PM
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Hi, all. I searched the forums for some wisdom about this question. Please forgive if it is a FAQ and point me to the right place.

My tuner suggested that I can fix unisons between tunings. It seems that I will need a tuning hammer and two rubber mutes to do this task.

My research shows a bewildering set of choices for hammers. Can anyone recommend one for this purpose? FYI, my instrument is a Falcone Model 74.

Thanks in advance.


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davidplace #3033384 10/08/20 11:31 AM
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I would first ask why are the unisons going bad? It could be the tuner is not banging the notes hard enough and the strings are not rendering, that is, they are not sliding over the bridge and making the tension equal until you play the piano a while. That's the tuner's fault and you should get him to fix it. It could be one tuning pin is loose and won't hold the correct tension. In that case the tuner should apply cyanoacrylate glue (CA) to it and make it hold.

You can get a starter piano tuning kit for like forty US dollars. The hard part is training your ear to recognize unisons. I always get them flat, and rely on a phone app instead, tuning each string by the app.

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Sure, you can fix unisons between tunings. All pianists should have experience with this and be able to touchup a tuning.

The hammer will depend on how much you are willing to spend. I’ve used probably a dozen different kinds of hammers in my lifetime. They all feel and respond differently. Consequently, tuners develop strong opinions on what is best. I learned to work with them all. They all get the job done. Ultimately, it depends on how you use your body.

If you are looking for a cheap hammer, amazon looks like they have a $20 version that would work well for a first tuning hammer. “Vktech Professional Extension Piano Tuning Hammer Wrench Lever Hardwood Handle.” I’d stay away from any of the “L-style” or “gooseneck” hammers and the kits. You’d never need a temperament strip anyway.

If you want to spend a few hundred ($200-600), then there are some much better options.

BTW, never use CA glue to “fix” a loose tuning pin. I don’t know who started telling people to do that, but that is crazy talk. It can be used on a junk piano that is already worthless. You can use CA to get some more life out of it. But, it is never how a tuner address a loose pin on a piano that has any value. First the pin gets tapped lower, if that doesn’t work there is a whole series of longer and thicker pins that are used to create uniformity in how the pin response. Once you use CA, you are never going to get it out of the wood without reaming the whole.

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CA glue works fine on tuning pins and has been advocated by leading professionals in the industry for decades.

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I got my kit from Howard Piano supply. It comes with a hammer, mutes, felt strip and tuning fork.

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I also rely on the phone apps Piano Meter and Tune Lab to assist me.


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