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Is Yamaha G2 touchweight heavier than other brands?
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I have very strong fingers that I can break apple with hands. But after playing Yamaha G2, I feel hands are easily get tired and sick. I asked the technician if he can make lighter and he put polished balance rail and center rail pins, capstons but I didn't notice any difference. When I cover the piano with piano cloth, next day I feel touchweight became little heavier and sticky.

Does piano cover affect the touchweight?
I tried new Bechstein upright and other used Welmar, Steinway, Petrof and Yamaha upright which was made in Indonesia and they were featherlight and easy to control.

My one is 1989 G2B. Does Yamaha G2 usually heavy?

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My recollection of playing these is the action is sort of average, neither extreme. But honestly, wear, age, environmental factors, and current condition (including the current state of regulation) matter more to the feel than the brand or model as the piano gets older. Grands and verticals don’t feel exactly the same, a better comparison would be with a newer Yamaha grand. At 31 years old, likely causes could be wear, friction, a poor state of regulation, or replacement with poorly-chosen parts for that application.


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What is the actual touch-weight on your piano? The number in grams I mean? You can use coins which you weigh on kitchen scales to measure it. Needs to be measured with the damper / sustain pedal pressed down.


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I know of 2 G2 from the 80s that had very stiff touch. Both have been left I played for years. After the thorough regulation work they became very playable, although one of them was slowly slipping back to the old condition from lack of use again. Your G2 could improve from a full regulation work. I suspect at least it needs to be fully cleaned and lubed.

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It is restored piano about one month ago.

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What does “restored” mean precisely? Sometimes in the industry, that can sometimes be code for “replaced precisely nothing“.

Did you have an independent technician inspect it?


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There could be problems from the “restoration”. My first thought is the keys might have been rebushed too tightly.


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Originally Posted by tony3304
It is restored piano about one month ago.

That's the problem

Touchweight does not, by itself determine the response of the keys. Inertia does.

Inertia is the amount of force required to start a mass to move. I find many 'rebuilt' pianos, usually Steinways where the touch weight is 20 to 30% below specs but the action is heavy due to overly heavy hammers.

Think of a 1lb claw hammer and a 2lb sledge hammer.

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Touch weight and inertia are two separate issues that can affect player fatigue. In my previous grand, a Schimmel 213, I increased the up and down weights (touchweight) but greatly reduced the lead in the keys via a Stanwood conversion. The result was greater control but reduced fatigue.


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