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Casio cdp-s100 or Studiologic sl88 studio
#3029681 09/27/20 06:20 PM
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I know both the keys are short. But i am not a pro pianist. The important thing for me is playability and portability. I usually study beginner and intermediate classics. I'm not interested in extra midi functions. (after touch, lcd, knobs, sliders etc.) As far as I have learned, all casio pianos use the same key action. Is this true? (except for the gp series). The Casio is much cheaper and has ivory textured keys. I guess this feature exists in higher level pianos. Which one do you think I should buy? Thanks.

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ludolf2938 #3029693 09/27/20 07:03 PM
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Originally Posted by ludolf2938
As far as I have learned, all casio pianos use the same key action. Is this true? (except for the gp series).
PX-360, PX-560, and PX-5S (at least) are still currently available models that use the action that preceded the one they developed for the CDP-S100 and other S models. Whether they are better or worse is a matter of opinion, probably also varying with which aspects of an action are of most concern to you.

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CDP-S and PX-S models have the new "slim" action with keys even shorter than in other Casios.

CDP models without an S have yet another action which apparently is just an older version of the Privia/Celviano action.

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ludolf2938 #3029983 09/28/20 04:37 PM
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Thank you for your answers. I touched the casio cdp-s100 today. I could not see any noticeable difference between the black and white keys but the key downweight was lighter than other digital pianos and casio series. but I think it has as much key downweight as an acoustic upright pianos. I've had an upright piano before. I think this will increase my learning speed. Would you agree with this thought?

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Originally Posted by anotherscott
PX-360, PX-560, and PX-5S (at least) are still currently available models that use the action that preceded the one they developed for the CDP-S100 and other S models. Whether they are better or worse is a matter of opinion, probably also varying with which aspects of an action are of most concern to you.

Casio's newest action is a two sensor action. If that's not worse than a tri-sensor action, I don't know what is.


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ludolf2938 #3030025 09/28/20 06:33 PM
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Except that the number of sensors has little bearing on how good an action is, except in the one respect that a third sensor helps (retriggering a note from a lower point in its travel). There are certainly many high quality 2-sensor actions that have been produced over the years that I'd rather play comparded to plenty of 3-sensor actions. So I wouldn't use that, by itself, as an indication of whether one action was better or worse than another, overall.

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Except that the number of sensors has little bearing on how good an action is, except in the one respect that a third sensor helps (retriggering a note from a lower point in its travel). There are certainly many high quality 2-sensor actions that have been produced over the years that I'd rather play comparded to plenty of 3-sensor actions. So I wouldn't use that, by itself, as an indication of whether one action was better or worse than another, overall.


The third sensor has nothing to do with re-triggering notes, but with a much more increased accuracy of velocity detection.


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ludolf2938 #3030028 09/28/20 06:52 PM
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Friends, when I first opened the topic, I opened it because of discussing tactile, mechanical differences. Sensor subject is the subject of another topic.

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Joe T: Nope. It's primarily about retriggering an already-played note. By not having to lift the key as high between strikes, it is easier to do some repeats and trills, and you can repeat a note (with no damper pedal) without lifting the key so high as to silence it first. See for example https://www.kawai.co.uk/products/digitalpianos/kdpseries/kdp110/ where it says...

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The added third sensor improves responsiveness when playing the same key repeatedly, and unlike conventional two sensor keyboard actions found in many digital pianos, allows the sound of a single note to be gradually ‘layered’ without the previous tone being lost.

Also, just try it yourself, it's easy to experience that difference.

Ludolk: Good luck keeping any internet thread completely on it's first topic. ;-)

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p.s. - though, Ludolf, the third sensor is one factor that can affect playability, and probably makes more of a difference than whether the keys are smooth or ivory-textured. (Sorry for the typo on your name, too late to edit/fix.)


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