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Do most people like warm and soft tone?
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While I was looking and trying several pianos, most pianos were voiced to warmer and roundish tone.

I prefer cold, clear and strong metallic tone but pianos were voiced in oppoiste way all same way.

Do most people prefer warm and roundish tone?

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Surely you do not mean mettalic ? Perhaps you a mean purer more mellow tone. It is difficult to describe tone .

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I like the warmer more rounded tone.

Not sure what your budget is but try a few older Yamaha grand piano's.

let us know if that is the sound you are after?


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I like a piano that can do everything, depending on how I play it.


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Re: Do most people like warm and soft tone?
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Originally Posted by terminaldegree
I like a piano that can do everything, depending on how I play it.
thumb Exactly


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Originally Posted by terminaldegree
I like a piano that can do everything, depending on how I play it.
Well Glen Gould could make piano sound almost like a harpsichord. (I have read )

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New pianos right out of the case have new hammers which haven’t been worn and naturally sound less bright then they will after some “playing in”. This is why pianos need to be voiced regularly. In recent years, a less bright piano with a more European rounded quality seem to be the most popular. Keep looking, especially playing some of those older, very popular Yamahas.


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I don’t like harsh or brittle sound but I very much prefer a clear and articulate tone over what is commonly called “warm” or “round”. To me, mellow means lifeless. And I notice pianos that are voiced down too much don’t have good sustain.

Certainly these are personal preferences but not everyone wants the mellow tone.


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In general I like pianos with a clear tone. I guess clear is more or less the opposite of mellow. If you are looking for pianos with a clear sound, e.g. Kawai would probably not be very suitable (usually mellow, warm, dark), however Bechstein or W.Hoffmann could fit. Maybe give those last two brands a try if they are available in your region.


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Originally Posted by terminaldegree
I like a piano that can do everything, depending on how I play it.
Well you are lucky terminaldegree, (or unlucky ?) , you are a performer, a technician, and a professor of music.I am sure you can voice your piano how you like for a certain repertoire,
then voice it different for another different repertoire. So yes
I am sure you can make your piano sound However you like.
(Owen , excuse me for being so "cheeky")

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For myself I like the tone of my piano. It is ,not bright, not soft,
not thin.It is rich yet pure , singing ,warmish , rich, yet I can play with a very soft tone. It is clear, rounded if I want but it can do very well with percussive 20th centuary music. It is never mettalic. On the whole Piano Buyer describes it best when it says a "lush singing tone".

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tony3304 #3029141 09/26/20 02:34 AM
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Instead of words, can you post YouTube videos of recorded pianos?


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I prefer a piano with a round, rich, creamy tone. But everyone has preferences. This is why it is great that we have so many choices in the piano marketplace!

If you want a piano with a clear, bright tone, I'm sure there is one out there for you. Happy hunting!

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I like the tone to be clear like a bell in the high treble without being metallic or harsh. Combine that with a well defined bass and somewhat fuller bodied midrange would check all the boxes for me.This is quite an individual taste. Good thing there is a wide variety of pianos out there to appeal to different preferences.

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Originally Posted by Gretel
In general I like pianos with a clear tone. I guess clear is more or less the opposite of mellow. If you are looking for pianos with a clear sound, e.g. Kawai would probably not be very suitable (usually mellow, warm, dark), however Bechstein or W.Hoffmann could fit. Maybe give those last two brands a try if they are available in your region.

Here’s a funny video with apparently virtuoso pianist playing a W. Hoffmann piano at home:


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Originally Posted by terminaldegree
I like a piano that can do everything, depending on how I play it.
Well you are lucky terminaldegree, (or unlucky ?) , you are a performer, a technician, and a professor of music.I am sure you can voice your piano how you like for a certain repertoire, then voice it different for another different repertoire. So yes I am sure you can make your piano sound However you like.
He said, "depending on how I play it" not "depending on how I voice it". It would be incredibly impractical to voice a piano differently depending on which repertoire one was playing at that moment. In fact, since most people play a variety of repertoire trying to voice a piano depending on the repertoire would not even be possible.

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I think this thread once again shows how difficult it is to talk about tone and how some people use the same words to mean different things. I think some posters have even said contradictory things in their posts. For example, I don't think "clear" is the opposite of "mellow".

I think this article by Sally Phillips from the Piano Buyer gives a good description of how tone is described at least by a piano technician:
https://www.pianobuyer.com/article/voicing-and-tone/

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I think i can appreciate multiple types of tones ranging from cold and clear to round and mellow.

For my home I prefer a softer tone because I have neighbors. I think a voiced down U3 is pretty good at clear + mellow.

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Originally Posted by Lady Bird
Surely you do not mean mettalic ? Perhaps you a mean purer more mellow tone. It is difficult to describe tone .
He probably means something like this where strings are more pronounced than body?


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Originally Posted by Lady Bird
Well you are lucky terminaldegree, (or unlucky ?) , you are a performer, a technician, and a professor of music.I am sure you can voice your piano how you like for a certain repertoire,
then voice it different for another different repertoire. So yes
I am sure you can make your piano sound However you like.
(Owen , excuse me for being so "cheeky")

No problem, Lady Bird!
Right now, knowing a few ancillary skills related to piano performance/teaching feels more like a curse than a blessing...I spent 7 1/2 hours in a hall yesterday for a scheduled 90 minute dress rehearsal, counting placing and troubleshooting some lighting and recording equipment and a few things with the piano. I started actually practicing around midnight...

My piano tech ability/knowledge is still pretty basic, so my approaches to regulation and particularly voicing are pretty conservative and limited in scope.
Having said that I’ll touch up voicing a handful of notes on my own piano or do something minor to the whole piano every couple of tunings, typically. But I’m not going to fundamentally change the character of my piano.


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