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I thought I would update you. We've come to a decision and are purchasing a new Estonia 190. My daughter kept coming back to the Estonias, and her behaviour indicated that she was really enjoying them. She would play a Kawai for a few minutes, then go back to either the 190 or 168 and STAY there, until we asked her to try another piano. She kept coming back to them, and staying put, playing. It was really telling. The Petrof fell out of the running for a couple reasons, among them initial cost and the fact that the store was discontinuing selling them. What if for any reason I wanted to trade the Petrof in in a couple years? I saw this as problematic, although our "intent" is to keep the piano we buy for 5+ years. The whole lawsuit left a bad taste in my mouth as well. By comparison, I got sold on Estonia's enthusiasm for good quality, as is my perception of this company. Finally, I really got to like the attitude and salesmanship of the owner of the stoer we purchased the Estonia at. I got a price that both he and I are happy with, that fell under the target suggested here earlier, and I actually felt like I'd forged a relationship with him that transcended buyer & seller. Well, all that's left is to cash some stock, donate the upright to my daughter's school, and decide how to place the piano in the room. Any dos and don'ts regarding that? Thanks agains for the interesting replies, the info, etc. Every response was helpful in some way or another.
"Let there be songs to fill the air..." Robert Hunter, GD lyricist
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Congratulation. You truly picked a wonderful piano. I'm sure your daughter is very blessed to have such a great piano and family.
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Originally posted by Fletcher: I thought I would update you. We've come to a decision and are purchasing a new Estonia 190. My daughter kept coming back to the Estonias, and her behaviour indicated that she was really enjoying them. She would play a Kawai for a few minutes, then go back to either the 190 or 168 and STAY there, until we asked her to try another piano. She kept coming back to them, and staying put, playing. It was really telling. The Petrof fell out of the running for a couple reasons, among them initial cost and the fact that the store was discontinuing selling them. What if for any reason I wanted to trade the Petrof in in a couple years? I saw this as problematic, although our "intent" is to keep the piano we buy for 5+ years. The whole lawsuit left a bad taste in my mouth as well. By comparison, I got sold on Estonia's enthusiasm for good quality, as is my perception of this company. Finally, I really got to like the attitude and salesmanship of the owner of the stoer we purchased the Estonia at. I got a price that both he and I are happy with, that fell under the target suggested here earlier, and I actually felt like I'd forged a relationship with him that transcended buyer & seller. Well, all that's left is to cash some stock, donate the upright to my daughter's school, and decide how to place the piano in the room. Any dos and don'ts regarding that? Thanks agains for the interesting replies, the info, etc. Every response was helpful in some way or another. Congrats, great choice! The expert pundits here (not me  ), generally recommend no direct sunlight, away from vents and fireplaces. They also sometimes recommend a damp chaser humidity control system on the piano itself. Your child is very lucky... Mark...
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Congratulations! I, too, could not tear myself away from the Estonias when shopping, and finally bit the bullet and bought a 168, so I commend your daughter's excellent taste! Pictures, pictures, please! We would love to see pictures once it's in its home. Margaret
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I had the same experience. I kept wanting to play the Estonia again after trying other brands.
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Congratulations! Your daughter is a very lucky girl! Looking forward to seeing pictures of your new piano. 
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Lot's of happy Estonia owners here on PW. Congratulations! I too had the same experience with Petrof and Estonia, and eventually purchased a 168, which I traded up last year to a 190.
FYI, don't worry if the piano goes out of tune quickly after delivery; this is normal. Wait about 1 month before your first tuning/voicing. I also suggest that you have at least 3 - 4 tunings during the first year. It will take that long before your new piano adjusts to its new environment.
Don't forget to post some pics. We love pics in PW!
Best regards, Roger
Music is the wine that fills the cup of silence. Estonia 190 - Serial # 6561
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jollyroger wrote: Lot's of happy Estonia owners here on PW. Congratulations! Indeed.
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When I was trying SK SK-3's we had the salesman on a line. $47000 was starter and then they came down to 45K, longstory short from 47K they finally offered 41,500 with delivery and upgraded bench. If not, if you can save for another year or what ever, better wait a year and get the piano she will play for a life time, then get one now that she gives it up in 3 years.
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Congratulations--you have bought a fabulous piano, and you and your daughter will get your lifetimes of enjoyment out of it. For me, moving from an ancient upright to a fabulous grand made all the difference, and I am sure it will do the same for your daughter.
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OK, the 190 is home! And Celeste hasn't stopped playing it since it arrived :-) I promise to post some pics a bit later. Right now prepping for a visit from her teacher. Pretty exciting moment for our family!
"Let there be songs to fill the air..." Robert Hunter, GD lyricist
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Originally posted by Fletcher: Why does she love these European pianos, and does the strong Euro against the dollar influence negotiating something already on their showroom floor?
your daughter has excellent taste. those particular European pianos sound and play great and are very expressive.
accompanist/organist.. a non-MTNA teacher to a few
love and peace, Õun (apple in Estonian)
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There's an Estonia 190 at a local dealer and it is wonderful. It's a piano that you'll never regret buying.
Please remember to post some pictures ...
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Fletcher,
Congratulations! - Your daughter has selected a piano that will be loved through generations.
Enjoy - Enjoy - Enjoy
Marty in Minnesota
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OK, I am a bit unclear how to post a photo to the forum. I have some pics in jpg format on my hard drive. I don't have a website to post them to first. I'm just one of those guys who copies and pastes, but that didn't seem to work here... so apparently I could use a bit of help to post pix :-) thx in advance.
"Let there be songs to fill the air..." Robert Hunter, GD lyricist
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OK, attempting to post a couple photos of Celeste and her new 190! :-) ![[Linked Image]](http://i448.photobucket.com/albums/qq201/seastones9/1stdayDebussy.jpg)
"Let there be songs to fill the air..." Robert Hunter, GD lyricist
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OK, it looks like it worked (Thx, apple* Here's one more... ![[Linked Image]](http://i448.photobucket.com/albums/qq201/seastones9/waitingforlegs.jpg)
"Let there be songs to fill the air..." Robert Hunter, GD lyricist
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Thanks for sharing the wonderful pictures. It is great to see someone playing the new piano, better than just a picture of of the new piano.
Congratulations on a wonderful piano.
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Its beautiful.
You will be proud for years to come.
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