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Hey there!

I'm currently using a Casio CDP-130 and since I've been playing for just over a year and looking to get something that will accompany me for at least 5-6 year (before I could start thinking of a grand) I'm looking to upgrade.

Haven't seen too many comparisons between the models, and I'm not sure I'll be able to test all/any of them due to COVID. I'd like to know if anyone has tried all of them and could give me an informed opinion on their differences?

For reference, where I live, the prices go as follows:

Yamaha CLP 745 - 2500€

Yamaha CLP 775 - 3000€

Kawai CA79 2850€



Going for the CA79 or CLP775 would mean at least 1-2 months of wait, alongside a larger investment. Would it be worth waiting and getting one of those versus the CLP 745? I'll want to upgrade to an acoustic grand at some point, and volume/quality of sound would be very important as I don't think I'll be playing with earphones for more than 10% of my playing.



Thank you in advance for any help provided! smile

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Originally Posted by Ankee
Going for the CA79 or CLP775 would mean at least 1-2 months of wait, alongside a larger investment. Would it be worth waiting and getting one of those versus the CLP 745?
If you can get a CLP-745, go for it before it's gone. And if you're upgrading to a grand anyway later on, you can also review it's little cousin P-515 in slab form.


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I've played all 3 of these half a dozen times each across different stores.

The CA79 felt the nicest to play, and has better key weighting (closest to the key weighting of an actual acoustic grand piano). The 745 has second best key weighting, but has shorter keys.

I purchased the 745 myself because here in Singapore it is 1300 € cheaper here than the CA79 (in a few countries these two are the same price).

The 775 is even heavier (more tiring) to play than the 785 (which itself is significantly heavier than the other two above). Given that you mentioned you aren't assuming to play on heavy upright pianos, but rather you are planning on moving towards a grand piano then the 775 is not the best model for you.

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It's also worth noting that the CA79 has wooden ebony keys with better grip, whereas the ebony keys on all of the Yamaha CLPs are plastic.

The CA79 is what you want smile

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The CLP-745 is great by itself but the response of the CA79 feels more pleasant to my fingers. Furthermore, since you mentioned you won't be playing for more than 10% of your time on earphones, the speakers will be very important and the CA79 should sound better with its 6-speaker setup vs the 4 speakers on the CLP-745.

If aesthetics matter you, the CA79 also triumphs the CLP-745 with its touchscreen control panel vs the CLP-745's buttons with an LCD screen that looks like an early 2000s Nokia mobile phone.


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I'd get CA79. I think it's best value for money. New Yamaha pianos are really expensive for what they offer, 775 does not have counterweights on keyboard and 745 has a bit limited speaker system but I haven't tested it so I have no idea how important it really is in that case.

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Yamaha is yamaha, better quality construccion than kawai

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Kawai always come to mind for their sound/keys but just after a few seconds i realized that it´s a big NO NO for me, here in Brazil.
Kawais pianos are always priced 1.5x higher than (yamaha/roland/casio) with the same price tag in the US...and, of course, the build quality control....

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Originally Posted by Beowulf
The CLP-745 is great by itself but the response of the CA79 feels more pleasant to my fingers. Furthermore, since you mentioned you won't be playing for more than 10% of your time on earphones, the speakers will be very important and the CA79 should sound better with its 6-speaker setup vs the 4 speakers on the CLP-745.

It should sound hundreds of bucks better and the action should feel hundreds of bucks nicer.

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If aesthetics matter you, the CA79 also triumphs the CLP-745 with its touchscreen control panel vs the CLP-745's buttons with an LCD screen that looks like an early 2000s Nokia mobile phone.

But it works[tm]. The touchscreen software got infamous on this forum. wink

Anyway the CA59 is the product to be compared against Yamaha's mid-range offer: Similar price, similar action, 128 x 64 pixel OLED nokia phone, similar speaker setup but with half of the amplification power.


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So how does the CA59 compare to the 745 action wise? Iam deciding between the two. I hadnt the chance to play the gfc action of the CA59, i only played the CA79 and 735.
The CA59 is around 200$ more then the 745 in my country and spec wise both fit my needs.

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Originally Posted by marknitek
The CA59 is around 200$ more then the 745 in my country and spec wise both fit my needs.

Then it's decided I think.


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In favour of which? :-)
Please explain...

Edit: Another important part is availability: the CA59 is (somewhat) in stock and the 745 is said to be in stock in november bit who knows if that will happen...

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If you buy a piano with the intention of replacing it in the foreseeable future, you may also consider its resale value in your area.

After trying all of the Yamaha and Kawai digitals/hybrids and deciding that I'd want to go back to an acoustic grand in the future, I bought a MP11se. It's a easy piano to sell and it's small, good, and inexpensive enough to keep.

Were those MSRP, advertised price or your final price?

In the US, MSRP for the CA-79 is $5,199, advertised price is $4,199 but you can buy a brand new one for as low as $3,070.

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Originally Posted by marknitek
In favour of which? :-)
Please explain...
If two things fit your needs and one is 200 bucks less...


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Originally Posted by djvu10
In the US, MSRP for the CA-79 is $5,199, advertised price is $4,199 but you can buy a brand new one for as low as $3,070.

I think that's a COVID special. I have been unable to find any dealer willing to sell at that price. I even called the same dealer who sold it for that price before.

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Originally Posted by marknitek
In favour of which? :-)
Please explain...

Edit: Another important part is availability: the CA59 is (somewhat) in stock and the 745 is said to be in stock in november bit who knows if that will happen...

I'd wait then try them both in the store. I baught mine the same and wouldn't rush spending this much money because of the silly comments here.

Who knows may be the vaccine comes out by that time. Wait.


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Originally Posted by marknitek
So how does the CA59 compare to the 745 action wise? Iam deciding between the two. I hadnt the chance to play the gfc action of the CA59, i only played the CA79 and 735.
The CA59 is around 200$ more then the 745 in my country and spec wise both fit my needs.

I would recommend playing all of the pianos that you are considering, and choosing the instrument that you prefer.

There are lots of different opinions on this forum from Yamaha, Kawai, and Roland fanboys, however the only opinion that truly matters is that of your own.

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I know that everyone is different with different preferences, etc, etc. My daughter has tried a Yamaha CVP and the CA79 and they're both good to her. Obviously, the 745 and the CVP is different but we won't be able to test out the 745 until at least November.

For those with experiences with both, would you pay 500 more for the CA79 over the 745? I still have the opportunity to make this decision as the 745 hasn't shipped. Thanks in advance.

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Originally Posted by djvu10
In the US, MSRP for the CA-79 is $5,199, advertised price is $4,199 but you can buy a brand new one for as low as $3,070.

I think that's a COVID special. I have been unable to find any dealer willing to sell at that price. I even called the same dealer who sold it for that price before.
They sell in Australia for about USD $2,400 + tax.
https://www.pianoworld.com.au/digital-pianos/kawai-ca79-piano/

That's even before bargaining smile

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