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Thanks for that link, it's the first clear picture of the keyboard being played I've seen. Looking at the angle the keys make when they're depressed, the pivot point is probably around 21-22cm from the end of the white key. Shorter than I hoped  Guess you have to pay up to get the longer non-S Grandtouch. I don’t understand that, it is bad?
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Thanks for that link, it's the first clear picture of the keyboard being played I've seen. Looking at the angle the keys make when they're depressed, the pivot point is probably around 21-22cm from the end of the white key. Shorter than I hoped Guess you have to pay up to get the longer non-S Grandtouch. That pivot length has been completely standard for GH actions since decades. Should be no surprise that it is still the same thing with a new name.
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Thanks for that link, it's the first clear picture of the keyboard being played I've seen. Looking at the angle the keys make when they're depressed, the pivot point is probably around 21-22cm from the end of the white key. Shorter than I hoped Guess you have to pay up to get the longer non-S Grandtouch. I don’t understand that, it is bad? Yes, it is bad in some ways.
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I only try 745, i felt very good ! Big Keyboard
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That pivot length has been completely standard for GH actions since decades. Should be no surprise that it is still the same thing with a new name. The Grandtouch is different from a GH in that it uses that long, thin, bendy plastic thing instead of a hinge, so it's mechanically different. If they rebranded some GH variant as "Grandtouch-S", that is some interesting marketing... Other than the excessive weight and friction, I do enjoy the Grandtouch's feel quite a lot. For my own needs, I don't need a heavy practice keyboard, but I think it's actually a good thing for beginners.
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That pivot length has been completely standard for GH actions since decades. Should be no surprise that it is still the same thing with a new name. The Grandtouch is different from a GH in that it uses that long, thin, bendy plastic thing instead of a hinge, so it's mechanically different. If they rebranded some GH variant as "Grandtouch-S", that is some interesting marketing... No way! No manufacturer has ever done that. When the plastic GrandTouch S turns out being a renamed GH3X and the wooden GrandTouch S a renamed NWX, it would be a total surprise to everyone. 
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I thought that GrandTouch-S had staggered black and white key pivots? So technically, it's not the same as GH because some keys will either longer or shorter.
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@trigalg: sorry for my ignorance, but what is the "thin long bendy thing" you mention? Is there photo evidence of it? I am only aware of photos from a plastic+wood action (nw, maybe?) and the hinge there was typical of a folded action.
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@trigalg: sorry for my ignorance, but what is the "thin long bendy thing" you mention? Now we’re even obsessing over ‘thinness’ and ‘bendyness’. Oh, the good ol’ days of practicing for eight hours on ‘piano’ keys painted on a table; then heading out for the farm to milk the cows, shovel the pig-[censored], and to work the fertile land without one single complaint, those days are gone. What have we come to, I ask? Is this the world we want to leave for our children?
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I thought that GrandTouch-S had staggered black and white key pivots? So technically, it's not the same as GH because some keys will either longer or shorter. Does it? Because the front and fallboard key dip on video looks exactly like what I'm used to from GH derivatives.
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Pete14: of course not... We need a world of pianos with music rests as bigly as the bendiness of their thinglies.
My english is not as good as your jokes...
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Today I retested the 745.
With the Bass at -3 on Brilhance(EQ) setting...the most natural sounding setting.
Nice sounding piano and touch..very nice.
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Today I retested the 745.
With the Bass at -3 on Brilhance(EQ) setting...the most natural sounding setting.
Nice sounding piano and touch..very nice. are you happy with that piano? Did you try kawai from the same range?
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It's very hard to find a Kawai digital piano(or acoustic) to play in my city.
Music stores carry the mid range digital pianos only.
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It's very hard to find a Kawai digital piano(or acoustic) to play in my city.
Music stores carry the mid range digital pianos only. Me neither i can try kawai, but that i gonna. Buy yamaha, but i want to do a good buy, i dont want the best piano It is impossible, but i want to buy a good dp  i have to say i love kawai sound
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It's very hard to find a Kawai digital piano(or acoustic) to play in my city.
Music stores carry the mid range digital pianos only. You should record video 745
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Hi Everyone,
Firstly, it's awesome to reading everyone's comments about the series 700. I mentioned back a few posts ago, that I put a deposit down for a 785 last week. Expected to arrive in Australia - late October????? Fingers crossed.
In reading the posts, it appears that no one has actually received any stock yet????? If you've ordered one, when do you expect to receive it?
Really looking forward to hearing about everyone's initial thoughts etc. :-)
Take care
Foxy.
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Hi Everyone,
Firstly, it's awesome to reading everyone's comments about the series 700. I mentioned back a few posts ago, that I put a deposit down for a 785 last week. Expected to arrive in Australia - late October????? Fingers crossed.
In reading the posts, it appears that no one has actually received any stock yet????? If you've ordered one, when do you expect to receive it?
Really looking forward to hearing about everyone's initial thoughts etc. :-)
Take care
Foxy. Yeah, waiting is difficult. Initially, the 785 was supposed to come out later in the year while the rest of the 700 line was supposed to get shipped in late summer. With the delays, the 700 shipments seem to be now scheduled to closer to the time that the 785 was supposed to be available. I am not sure how to interpret this. On one hand, maybe everything will just come in the same window? On the other, is it possible that the slowed production will spill over into the 785 as well? Most online retailers in the US are saying "estimated ship date, November" for all models. Until I hear otherwise, that is probably the best guess anyone has.
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today i bought a CLP-775
at a 2795€ i think was a big deal.
i didnt try it so i hope the keyboard isnt very heavier comparing with my old CLP-535
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Hello i was playing Yamaha GB1 Clp745 and clp775. I felt that 775 is a little heavy, something friction. 745 was fast similar gb1. I am beginner sorry
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