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Originally Posted by F-Sharp
If I put it higher, my ears will get some serious damage, I’m sure. In the first weeks I had the instrument I put it at about half the volume with headphones and within a few days I noticed a constant ringing in my ears. Since then I kept the volume lower, and my ears have improved, but I still hear some ringing once in a while, so some damage may already have occurred. Never had ear problems with any of the arranger keyboards I owned in several decades.

I have mild tinitus myself and very much noticed this same thing, I now keep the volume lower the only problem I have to watch is striking the keys harder than I should to get the expression.


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Reading this long list of critical comments in terms of the UI (touchscreen and software) in the CA-79, I wonder why so few people consider buying the CA-59, which has a standard interface with buttons and and the software in this piano does not pose problems.
Is the difference in sound of CA-79 really so big that it is worth to bother with this UI?
I'm asking because I'm planning to buy one of these pianos, and I can any of these models, but I just don't want something I'm going to get frustrated with. The CA-59 seems like a good option - it has powerful speakers, the GFC is said to be very close to the GFIII (both also have no teflon tape issues).
On the plus side, the CA-79 has a rendering engine for main piano sound, but is it worth the UI frustration for this?

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Originally Posted by Ziggy-pl
Reading this long list of critical comments in terms of the UI (touchscreen and software) in the CA-79, I wonder why so few people consider buying the CA-59, which has a standard interface with buttons and and the software in this piano does not pose problems.
Is the difference in sound of CA-79 really so big that it is worth to bother with this UI?
I'm asking because I'm planning to buy one of these pianos, and I can any of these models, but I just don't want something I'm going to get frustrated with. The CA-59 seems like a good option - it has powerful speakers, the GFC is said to be very close to the GFIII (both also have no teflon tape issues).
On the plus side, the CA-79 has a rendering engine for main piano sound, but is it worth the UI frustration for this?

The keyboard movement is totally different between the CA59 Grand Feel and CA79 Grand Touch that is why most people go the CA79 for the more deeply authentic feel. Or, at least that is what we and they tell ourselves.


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Thanks for this reply. This may be the case. I am really not that experienced in piano, and I am upgrading from ES110 after two years of not moderately intensive learning. But, as I tested these two actions at the store, I did not feel huge difference. I did prefer both CA actions to the other pianos at the store, but honestly it would be difficult for me to tell which one is better, of course assuming that I did not see the price tag. I know that I may not be able to assess this well (yet), but this was my feeling.
Also, it is a bit confusing for me to see a lot of positive comments on the VPC1 that has quite old action, that according to tech specifications is inferior to the GFC.. I rise this topic, because after reading all these issues related to the CA-79 UI, I tend to choose CA-59. But maybe I am making a mistake because of my lack of experience and soon I would regret not choosing the CA-79 - ?

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There are lots of differences between CA59 and CA79. Key action, amplification and SK-EX rendering are the most important I guess. But it’s up to you to decide to spend the extra bucks or not. Both are great instruments. I wouldn’t buy the CA79 for the touchscreen / OS, at least not as it is now. But a great OS update will be released one day. That’s my hope. It has to. Or it will be my last Kawai ever.


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Originally Posted by Ziggy-pl
Thanks for this reply. This may be the case. I am really not that experienced in piano, and I am upgrading from ES110 after two years of not moderately intensive learning. But, as I tested these two actions at the store, I did not feel huge difference. I did prefer both CA actions to the other pianos at the store, but honestly it would be difficult for me to tell which one is better, of course assuming that I did not see the price tag. I know that I may not be able to assess this well (yet), but this was my feeling.
Also, it is a bit confusing for me to see a lot of positive comments on the VPC1 that has quite old action, that according to tech specifications is inferior to the GFC.. I rise this topic, because after reading all these issues related to the CA-79 UI, I tend to choose CA-59. But maybe I am making a mistake because of my lack of experience and soon I would regret not choosing the CA-79 - ?

I would have got the CA59 if I couldn't tell a difference between the two. GFC is a great action, better than almost all digital pianos out there. The main point of GF3 is the length, which further enchances the autheticity compared to an acoustic grand piano. GFC is akin to a great upright piano, whereas GF3 is akin to a great grand piano. Just go with CA59 if it feels just like CA79 for you.

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Thanks, so I would try the CA59. Also, I already have a Pianoteq and Ravenscroft for iOS (I used that on my ES110), so I can use this if i see the need to upgrade the Kawai sound.

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But a great OS update will be released one day. That’s my hope. It has to. Or it will be my last Kawai ever.
Well said. I guess it'll be another decade or so until it arrives but it'll come. Either by us customers getting tired of waiting or by Kawai doing their job, that they should've done before releasing the product.

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I quite like this chap's videos - but he's more into acoustic piano, and stage/slab digitals. But he's done a quick one on the CA99, and here it is:

James Pavel Shawcross - impressions of CA99

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I quite like this chap's videos - but he's more into acoustic piano, and stage/slab digitals. But he's done a quick one on the CA99, and here it is:

James Pavel Shawcross - impressions of CA99


For James Pavel, this truely is a very short review/impression. I like the way he discusses instruments inside out on his Youtube channel, quite unbiased (I think) and with lots of knowledge and very talented playing skills. So when he says he loves the action and could play the CA99 all day long, that is a big compliment to Kawai. Other channels (Bonners, Merriam and the likes) give a lot of information, which of course is very useful, but in the end, because they are/represent stores/webshops, they're almost always positive on any instrument. Not as unbiased as James I guess. (Keep up the good work, man, if you ever read this post.)


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I agree with F-sharp about Bonners. They kind of suck you in. Speaking to one of there Staff I mentioned this and he got all excited but only when I mentioned that they were all the same .... I mean that whatever you are looking for or comparing to it all sounds fine until you err off-piste and look at other videos and realise the script is mostly the same, playing the same. The only bit that is useful is the factual differences, so the rest take with a pinch of salt.


No good but carry on regardless
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