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KAWAI Action Comparison Video #3027424 09/21/20 09:28 AM
Joined: Nov 2012 Posts: 1,469 Boston, Massachusetts M Marko in Boston OP 1000 Post Club Member
OP Marko in Boston 1000 Post Club Member M Joined: Nov 2012 Posts: 1,469 Boston, Massachusetts	This is a very good video explaining all Kawai actions. I posted it because I think it's especially helpful for anyone new getting into digital pianos. Good to clearly see how these things work IMO.

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Re: KAWAI Action Comparison Video Marko in Boston #3027425 09/21/20 09:41 AM
Joined: Dec 2018 Posts: 1,465 U U3piano 1000 Post Club Member
U3piano 1000 Post Club Member U Joined: Dec 2018 Posts: 1,465	Nice video. I didn't know gf3 had longer keysticks than gf2.

Re: KAWAI Action Comparison Video U3piano #3027433 09/21/20 10:19 AM
Joined: May 2020 Posts: 1,106 J jeffcat 1000 Post Club Member
jeffcat 1000 Post Club Member J Joined: May 2020 Posts: 1,106	Originally Posted by U3piano Nice video. I didn't know gf3 had longer keysticks than gf2. Big pivot FTW !!

Re: KAWAI Action Comparison Video Marko in Boston #3027436 09/21/20 10:26 AM
Joined: Mar 2020 Posts: 31 J Javaslinger Full Member
Javaslinger Full Member J Joined: Mar 2020 Posts: 31	I don't think Kaiwa is going to like you referring to the RHC as being 'Semi Weighted'....

Re: KAWAI Action Comparison Video Marko in Boston #3027438 09/21/20 10:28 AM
Joined: May 2020 Posts: 108 F FPlays Full Member
FPlays Full Member F Joined: May 2020 Posts: 108	Thanks for sharing, good to see how they work! Even here the RHC is described as semi-weighted - totally agree as it's much lighter compared to others.

Re: KAWAI Action Comparison Video U3piano #3027446 09/21/20 10:35 AM
Joined: May 2014 Posts: 47 maul Full Member
maul Full Member Joined: May 2014 Posts: 47	Originally Posted by U3piano Nice video. I didn't know gf3 had longer keysticks than gf2. I'm not sure where she heard that, but it doesn't look to be true, at least based on this comparison image I made: Last edited by maul; 09/21/20 10:36 AM.

Re: KAWAI Action Comparison Video Marko in Boston #3027450 09/21/20 10:38 AM
Joined: May 2020 Posts: 52 8 88snowmonkeys Full Member
88snowmonkeys Full Member 8 Joined: May 2020 Posts: 52	Very cool, good to see the actions in... action

Re: KAWAI Action Comparison Video Marko in Boston #3027453 09/21/20 10:45 AM
Joined: Dec 2018 Posts: 1,465 U U3piano 1000 Post Club Member
U3piano 1000 Post Club Member U Joined: Dec 2018 Posts: 1,465	Hm, it seems you are right to me Maul.

Re: KAWAI Action Comparison Video Javaslinger #3027501 09/21/20 12:38 PM
Joined: Feb 2010 Posts: 5,748 A anotherscott 5000 Post Club Member
anotherscott 5000 Post Club Member A Joined: Feb 2010 Posts: 5,748	Originally Posted by Javaslinger I don't think Kaiwa is going to like you referring to the RHC as being 'Semi Weighted'.... Right. Semi weighted doesn't mean lighter, it means there's no hammer mechanism.

Re: KAWAI Action Comparison Video maul #3027607 09/21/20 05:23 PM
Joined: Jul 2014 Posts: 2,247 Cheshire, United Kingdom Doug M. 2000 Post Club Member
Doug M. 2000 Post Club Member Joined: Jul 2014 Posts: 2,247 Cheshire, United Kingdom	Originally Posted by maul Originally Posted by U3piano Nice video. I didn't know gf3 had longer keysticks than gf2. I'm not sure where she heard that, but it doesn't look to be true, at least based on this comparison image I made: One would need to measure, as those pics may not be quite to scale. Instruments: Current - Kawai MP7SE; Past - Kawai MP7, Yamaha PSR7000 Software: Sibelius 7; Neuratron Photoscore Pro 8 Stand: K&M 18953 Table-style Stage Piano Stand

Re: KAWAI Action Comparison Video Doug M. #3027609 09/21/20 05:27 PM
Joined: Aug 2016 Posts: 5,156 G Gombessa 5000 Post Club Member
Gombessa 5000 Post Club Member G Joined: Aug 2016 Posts: 5,156	Originally Posted by Doug M. One would need to measure, as those pics may not be quite to scale. I think you can just confirm that the back of the black keys is lined up at the same time as the front of the white keys to confirm the scale (or have it be good enough). Here, I think what happened is that U3 just mistook the GF Compact for the GF2? Yamaha P-85, P-105, CP50, Kawai MP11 \|\| Kawai NV-10

Re: KAWAI Action Comparison Video Marko in Boston #3027615 09/21/20 06:00 PM
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36251 1000 Post Club Member Joined: Nov 2010 Posts: 1,130	I appreciate that Kawai is not calling their top actions "hybrid." AG N2 \| ES 110 \| REFACE CP \| GK MK & MP amps

Re: KAWAI Action Comparison Video Marko in Boston #3027665 09/21/20 11:14 PM
Joined: Jul 2020 Posts: 98 M MartF Full Member
MartF Full Member M Joined: Jul 2020 Posts: 98	Interesting she mentioned GFIII having "faster repetition". The technical differences between GF, GFII & GFIII are listed here. There's lots of comments about GF being slow (compared to RM3II) at the end of this thread. GFC was shown some love here (with respect to GFII), but said to be difficult to play ppp here. I don't remember seeing any negative comments about GFIII. I presume it's generally the favourite?

Re: KAWAI Action Comparison Video Doug M. #3027666 09/21/20 11:17 PM
Joined: May 2014 Posts: 47 maul Full Member
maul Full Member Joined: May 2014 Posts: 47	Originally Posted by Doug M. Originally Posted by maul Originally Posted by U3piano Nice video. I didn't know gf3 had longer keysticks than gf2. I'm not sure where she heard that, but it doesn't look to be true, at least based on this comparison image I made: One would need to measure, as those pics may not be quite to scale. It's all to scale, overlaid and precisely lined up (black key, etc.) - definitely the same length and pivot point. All previous discussion has pointed to GF3 being the same length, I'm not sure why this particular video claimed otherwise. Last edited by maul; 09/21/20 11:26 PM.

Re: KAWAI Action Comparison Video Marko in Boston #3027692 09/22/20 02:19 AM
Joined: Sep 2007 Posts: 17,140 Hamamatsu, Japan Kawai James Yikes! 10000 Post Club Member
Kawai James Yikes! 10000 Post Club Member Joined: Sep 2007 Posts: 17,140 Hamamatsu, Japan	Yes, GF, GFII, GFIII all share the same key length. Kind regards, James x Employed by Kawai Japan, however the opinions I express are my own. Nord Electro 3 & occasional rare groove player.