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Re: Dip, Aftertouch, Blow
jeffcat #3027114 09/20/20 09:49 AM
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It has been my observation that many of the most experienced concert techs are the least concerned with the absoluteness of numerical specifications for every measurable action parameter when they regulate a piano. While the opposite seems to be true for newer techs and DIYs...probably due to a lack of familiarity with the work.


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Re: Dip, Aftertouch, Blow
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To add to Terminaldegree's on point comments: Properly viewed; action regulation tests allow one to derive what angular relations work best in an individual action.

So if you want to learn to regulate actions, you need to learn to "feel" how the action allows you to sense what is happening to the hammer.

During escapement, you have no control over the hammer. (I define escapement duration to include the time the hammer spends on the string). So the quicker escapement can occur across the full dynamic range and the hammer is at rest on either the backcheck, or fully returned to rest; the more control the pianist has.

If the hammer is bouncing on the rep lever rather than falling into check during soft playing, pianists lose control over dynamics when they attempt a repetition.


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I notice that the conversation reverts again to grand regulation. the original question was about a vertical piano.
I am probably typical of piano technicians in that my sense of "good regulation" is much more certain in grand pianos than in vertical pianos.
This is the case even though I have tuned more vertical pianos than grand pianos.
Grand pianos are the "high end" of our work. I've rebuilt many grand piano actions, very few verticals.
Taken as a whole, many of the verticals we service are not well designed, many are intentionally B- grade instruments, not capable of fine performance regulation.

In the last years of my career I did a lot of field service for a Yamaha dealer who was very concerned that his pianos were well-prepped and followed up in the homes.
After servicing a few dozen quality vertical pianos over their first seasons, I began to develop a critical feel for vertical pianos, but not with the point-by-point clarity of grand pianos. This is probably innate in the action.

I had one opportunity to play a late Fandrich vertical piano. It felt very much like a grand piano, but even more responsive. I've wanted on ever since.


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