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Re: New kawai novus incoming ?
terminaldegree #3027112 09/20/20 09:42 AM
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Originally Posted by terminaldegree
Pete14, you can have my winter NAMM tickets this year!

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Let's not forget the N2 has been around for more than a decade now and it's still selling.


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Originally Posted by Beowulf
Let's not forget the N2 has been around for more than a decade now and it's still selling.

Yeah, but Yamaha is kinda weird like that. See CP-300.


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Re: New kawai novus incoming ?
Pete14 #3027219 09/20/20 03:03 PM
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Originally Posted by Pete14
What about a new N3X (N4X?) model?
I mean, the N3X was released back in 2016, so come winter NAMM it’ll be 5 years old.
Well I would be surprised Yamaha invests here before knowing what the Kawai opponent will be, but I'd give it proper attention if it were to be released.

Originally Posted by Pete14
Regarding the NV-20, it could be another year or two (I hope I’m wrong)

No offense but I hope you are wrong too 😅. I'm a new tech addict and I need the new tech now! New tech tomorrow is old tech! I wonder if/how the covid situation affected development of new hybrids.

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Incidentally, why have we decided to call it the ‘NV-20’? The truth is that it could be anything from the NV-11 to the NV-99!
I don't know it sounds rather logical 😁, NV10 is double NV5 so .... OR maybe it's NV15 🤯.


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There’s probably not much profit in these hybrid pianos, particularly given the cost of real grand piano actions, to justify a 3-5 year refresh cycle, when the sales volume is taken into consideration.

Fair enough 🤔, but then I don't necessarily see it as a refresh but more of a new model in the novus line, potentially Kawai's N3X. For instance, it seems they released the DG30 simply because Kawai had no grand-ish looking keyboards to compete with Roland or Yamaha. So my hope is that they'll try to get their share of the cake as well.

When is the NAMM? Perhaps we'll get some more details by then.


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Re: New kawai novus incoming ?
Marchelune #3027244 09/20/20 04:13 PM
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Originally Posted by Marchelune
When is the NAMM? Perhaps we'll get some more details by then.

Summer NAMM 2020 in Nashville was cancelled. Winter NAMM 2021 in Anaheim is also cancelled. New keyboard instrument releases are typically at the winter shows, if they occur at NAMM. So, January 2022 at the earliest, unless released at a different show, if at all?

The economy is pretty slow globally, and the supply chain is still not as it was, pre-pandemic. Unless a model is already in production and completely through the development process, I don't think we'll be seeing a lot of new DP products in the next 6 months. Just a guess.

The major shows (NAMM, Music China, Musikmesse) are often, but not always, when new products are introduced. Probably because many dealers for each of these global markets attend the shows, and a lot of press and other music industry people are there, so there's also an opportunity for a lot of product exposure by the people who are most involved with sales and promotion at the wholesale level.


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My guess is that seeing the cadence between the NV-10 and NV-5, Kawai is either by choice or necessity staggering releases, either new models or refreshes to existing ones. It allows enough time for meaningful changes to be made in hw/sound engine, and keeps up a timing of frequent updates without appearing dead in the water for half a decade or more. It probably also helps with design/supply/manufacturing and logistical scheduling (how many teams so you think they have working on hybrid designs? My guess is 1).

So maybe an NV-20 in a couple of years (or maybe an NV-10 refresh in that time). And definitely NOT a new NV refresh every 1-2 years.


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