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Is Casio PX-S1000 a right choice for me
#3026576 09/19/20 12:02 AM
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Hello.

I am not a proffessional piano guy. I am just at the beginning point. It's like a hobby for me now.

I would like to find digital piano within 550 euro with most comfortable key action within this price.
Here are additional requirements:
- 88 keys
- Optional 3 pedals unit.
- Usb port to connect to computer and play using Pianoteq.
- Stand must be optional. I have my own.

I have been choosing for about a couple of weeks.
What I found is Casio PX-S1000.
It looks like it fits all my requirements, but...
1. There are videos on Youtube proving that weight of black keys is less than the weight of white keys.
2. Since it is very slim digital piano, it is harder to press keys near the piano panel (I don't know if it is true but I believe it is).

So here are my questions:
1. How critical are these two points for a newbie who are not planning to play classic music on a real grand piano in the future but would like to play pop songs of different difficulty and speed. The opinions of people who have some experience with this model are especially appreciated.
2. Why do I want a comfortable key action. My fingers are not very strong and when I play on my M-AUDIO Keystation ES61 Midi keyboard for some time (let's say a couple of hours and more), I feel like tiredness, especially in the left little finger. May be it is because I don't know how to play properly. But may be because there are hard springs in this instrument. I didn't play anything except this ES61 keyboard. Is Casio PX-S1000 good for me?
3. I will try to find a piano teacher, but If I failed to find one, what links would you recommend me to start from (video, books, apps, etc)?

Thank you!

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lehinsun #3026581 09/19/20 01:13 AM
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Hi,

From my own experience I think the PS-X1000 keys are very heavy and if you feel tiredness after playing on you M-audio this will be a lot more work. I don’t think the difference in weight of black vs white keys will make a big difference for a beginner but the down weight of the keys is. I sold mine and bought a Yamaha P-515 that has a much better action and I don’t get tired as I used to to with my PS-X1000.

I would recommend Yamah P-125 for your needs. Since you will use it with pianoteq you will really enjoy the inbuilt USB audio interface since you only need the usb-cable to send both midi and audio to and from your computer.

Hope this helps.

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lehinsun #3026613 09/19/20 04:49 AM
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I just visited a local shop, and there was Casio PX-S5. I liked its keyboard very much. And there also was Casio px-s1000. Its keys weight more than keys of PX-S5.

So Casio PX-S5 has very good keyboard, but it has no speakers and it has no 3 pedal unit. Are there something with similar keyboard?

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Boboulus #3026622 09/19/20 05:01 AM
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Thank you, Boboulus. I knew that there are only Yamaha official store here and tried all their pianos. I did'n't like them. Now I know that there is Casio also

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lehinsun #3026623 09/19/20 05:01 AM
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All the non "S" or "Hybrid" Privia and Celviano models share the same action, so it you like the PX-5S (not PX-S5) then have a look at other Casios, like the PX-160.

But as the others are not stage/portable pianos the triple pedal requires the dedicated stand unless you modify it mechanically. That's quite common for other brands too.

The Yamaha P-125, the Roland FP-10/30, the Korg B2 and the Kawai ES-110/920 triple pedals attach to their dedicated stands.

Casio has the "portable" triple pedal for the PX-S models and Roland has the RPU-3 "portable" triple pedal, but not all Rolands can use it. The FP-60 and FP-90 can. They are much more expensive.

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clothearednincompo #3026700 09/19/20 10:09 AM
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Thank you, clothearednincompo. I just watched reviews about px-160. It seems very nice to me.

If it has same keyboard as px-5s, I would definitely consider buying it, but I have several questions again:
1. It is rather an old piano (e.g. it is archived on Casio site). Is it a bad idea in the world of pianos to buy not very fresh instrument? May be there can be problems with spare parts or something?
2. Have you tried this px-160 or may be some of your friends have? Is there anything in this piano you personally don't like? (Of course considering its price) and why?

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lehinsun #3026716 09/19/20 10:50 AM
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I also find out that px-160 does not have Escapement (unlike Roland fp10). How critical is this? I won't be able to play fast music? Will anybody be able to play this https://youtu.be/Lgn4rouy-vk on this piano? grin

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lehinsun #3026733 09/19/20 11:22 AM
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I want to play slow and fast music on comfortable lightweight keyboard

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Originally Posted by lehinsun
So Casio PX-S5 has very good keyboard, but it has no speakers and it has no 3 pedal unit. Are there something with similar keyboard?
In other models that are either current or recent, there's PX-150, PX-160 (both of which have really awful speakers IMO), PX-350, CGP-700 (which comes with a stand but you don't have to use it... though using their stand also improves the speaker system), PX-360, PX-560 (these last two having the most advanced piano sounds of the bunch, and the 560 having the most features overall, including the greatest ability to edit the sounds to your taste). They all have the same action as PX-5S, they all have speakers, they all have an optional 3 pedal unit, though the pedals may be awkward to use with any stands but their own. See the thread at http://forum.pianoworld.com/ubbthreads.php/topics/2273845/Functionality_of_the_Casio_Pri.html

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p.s. -- If you want to use triple pedals for Pianoteq and your piano doesn't already have them, there's another way to add them. See the thread at http://forum.pianoworld.com/ubbthre...n-i-connect-3-pedals-to-my-keyboard.html

The added pedals may not work with the piano itself, but you can definitely get it to work when playing a VST like Pianoteq.

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anotherscott #3026971 09/19/20 11:33 PM
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Thank you, anotherscott. Thanks all.

Ok, for now I decided not to buy casio px-s1000, because I've tried it yesterday and I didn't like its keyboard (it is much harder to press near the panel of piano, probably because of small piano size). It is newer and has different cool features, but keyboards is the most important thing for me right now.

Now, casio px-160 is the most appropriate choice for me because of these must-have requirements:
- It has lightweight keyboard which does not hurt my fingers
- Supports 3 pedals unit.
- It has usb and speakers

In a week, our local shop (which I visited yesterday) will receive some more Casios. I will look what they have. If I find nothing better, I would buy px-160 with 3 pedals unit and stand (Anotherscott, sorry, I'm too newbie to bother with pedal hacks, just want something complete enough out of the box)

But until this time, guys, since now I know that I need a lightweight comfortable keyboard with possibility to play different music (slow/fast) what else can you recommend me from any brands. Let's increase price limit till 700 euro. Beside, If you know any good midi-keyboards with action like in px-160, include it in your list please.

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lehinsun #3026981 09/20/20 12:27 AM
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Originally Posted by lehinsun
If I find nothing better, I would buy px-160 with 3 pedals unit and stand (Anotherscott, sorry, I'm too newbie to bother with pedal hacks, just want something complete enough out of the box)
That's certainly simpler! I only suggested the other because you said you'd like to use your own stand, so it's an option.

Originally Posted by lehinsun
what else can you recommend me from any brands.
Kawai ES110 and Korg D1 are other moderately priced boards that lots of people seem to like the action of, and worth playing if you get the chance.

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Hmm, it seems Kawai ES110 does not have USB port :|

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I had a Casio PX-360 and Casio PX-S3000. I was glad 0I replaced them with the more pianistic action, dynamics, and sound of a Kawai ES110.


Playing professionally since 1975. Style: Straight-ahead jazz. Gear: Kawai ES110 | Mojo 61 | 1966 Mason & Hamlin piano
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USB-MIDI adapter cables are available and cost tens of euros. Very cheap ones can be of lesser quality and have some problems.

That or Bluetooth MIDI would be the solution for the Kawai ES110.

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Oh, I didn't know. It is cool! So my computer will recognize it like it is connected directed through usb?

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Yep.

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Ok, I think that's all for now.

Within one week I'll try to buy something. Until that moment, I am here. May be somebody will add something new. Thanks everyone for your help. Nice forum, god damn!

P.S.: I am not sure about kawai es110. I probably will not buy it. Not because I don't trust your opinions, but because I don't trust my "overbeleiving" anymore. Yamaha and Casio are the only brends who sell here. So I cannot try Kawai out. I have been watched "great" reviews on casio px-s1000 for almost two weeks and thought it is what I wanted, but when I tried out it myself, I changed my mind.

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Unfortunately, nothing suitable for me was not arrived to the store cry. Therefore, I am postponing the purchase indefinitely. Thank you all again.

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Why not the Korg D1 or B2?!

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