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How do you play this notation?
#3026982 09/20/20 12:27 AM
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Hi I'd like to ask how do you play this notation for the
quarter and whole C notes? Do I play the note once and held for the combined value or played twice for a quarter note and next a whole note?

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Re: How do you play this notation?
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I'm presuming that's the left hand and that the time signature is 4/4.

Play the bottom note E only once and hold for the full measure (4 beats); play the B on beat 2 and hold for the remaining three beats. The notation is written that way to show that the E (quarter note) to B (dotted half note) is a phrase.

Imagine two "voices:" one bass voice holding the E for four beats and one baritone voice singing the E to B. Then the E and B will sound together for beats 2, 3, and 4.

If that is the right hand, then the notes are C and G, but it certainly looks left hand.

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Thanks for the reply. Sorry I wasn't clear this is actually C and G and yes in 4/4 time. So basically the whole note functions like the dot in the half note but instead of writing a lot of dots to say to hold it for four beats, the composer just used a whole note to convey that message?

Additional question if I may, if the C is to be held for 4 beats then why not just use a whole note instead? Or is this just a workaround a composer did just to not violate the standardized notation rules?

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Originally Posted by dcbluepiano
So basically the whole note functions like the dot in the half note but instead of writing a lot of dots to say to hold it for four beats, the composer just used a whole note to convey that message?
A dot means: add half of the value of the previous note. So half note with a dot is a half note plus a quarter note. A half note with two dots is not a half note plus two quarter notes, but a half note plus a quarter note plus an 8th note (half of the quarter note). So by writing a lot of dots, you can never give a half note the value of a whole note.

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Additional question if I may, if the C is to be held for 4 beats then why not just use a whole note instead? Or is this just a workaround a composer did just to not violate the standardized notation rules?
As Bruce said, it is to convey that there are two voices here: one bass voice holding the E for four beats and one baritone voice singing the E to B.

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if the C is to be held for 4 beats then why not just use a whole note instead? Or is this just a workaround a composer did just to not violate the standardized notation rules?

No, there are two voices here, and they share the C key for one beat. One voice goes C-G and the other voice just sings C for four beats. For that one beat in which you play one C, in your head you should imagine it as if you're playing two C's with one note.

(N.B. I'm assuming this is C-G, and not E-B because you said so, but otherwise I would have assumed these notes to be E-B.)

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A beginner wouldn't know the following:
Piano music is written usually in 4 [or more] voices- SATB. i.e. soprano, alto, tenor and bass.
The tenor and bass are usually located on the bass [F] staff as opposed to the treble clef staff.
The melody is usually on the G or treble staff.
So
1. the "E" whole note is the bass voice while the
2. "E" to B" half dotted slur is [in] the tenor voice.

Imagine being in a choir, and this concept is more clear...or makes more sense.
The lower voice would hold "E" 4 beats as the tenors would raise the tone to "B" for the last 3 beats.






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