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In need of some advice for Bach WTC!
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Hello there people! I really need some help! As my exams are around the corner (next month) I have to play a prelude and fugue from the wtc. We chose the c minor from book 1. It's going good. (Excluding that presto on the prelude it's a nightnare X( ). For next year I again have to choose a pair. I thought about taking the 8th pair from wtc 1 (you know tge one that has diffrent keyes for the two pieces) due to the fact that they are pretty slow and the fuge is a three voiced one, what concerns me is its length. (the presto left me traumatised I need a break XD). My teacher says I have an incredible sense of musicality and good expression. The problem is the technique which im least good at. (Thats why we chose that pair the prelude is really technical). Do you guys have any recommendations for other pairs? My teacher will probably make me pick one with a 3 voice fugue. I just want something slower. I was also considering the eminor pair from book one, but the trills of the prelude scare me lot. Please give me your advice and opinions!

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The eb-minor p&f is delightful and one of my favorites to play. Some other good ones that might fit your level from book one are D major, F# major, Bb major, B major. Honestly, they're all great and you kinda can't go wrong with any of them.


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I recommend BWV 863 in G# minor, because it's slow & easy and you can go to town with your expression with it.

(Actually, it's also one of just two P&F from the WTC I ever played - for exams - so it must have been easy wink ).


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Thank you so much for your advice! Though the 4 voice fugue slightly concerns me XD! But I'm so happy you gave me your piece of advice!^-^

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What do you think of the e minor I mentioned? The rcm has it level 10. The c minor is considered level 9 (which I defy because that prelude is a nightmare). The 8th pair is considered arcm. And the eb minor is the one I mentioned right? Its my top one along with the b minor from book 2. Is the fugue that difficult? The length concerns me and people say its quite a ride. Bit the slow temo helps me a lot! Thank you for answering and helping me! smile

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I wish i could use some more help with this, Could anyone also rate the e minor p and f for meee! The continious trills in the prelude freak me out!

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Originally Posted by Small Pianist 66
I wish i could use some more help with this, Could anyone also rate the e minor p and f for meee! The continious trills in the prelude freak me out!

There is one problem when you ask someone else to rate the difficulty of a work for your benefit: we all have different areas of strengths and weaknesses. Trills freak you out, whereas some may be quite at home with trills; similarly, with octaves or scale passages, etc.

In this instance I think that your teacher is your best guide, not unknown entities on an Internet forum. Your teacher best knows what are your skills, your strengths and your weaknesses and is better able than we are to encourage you in the proper direction.

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I can not make any specific suggestion.

But as a general idea, i dont understand why it is so much widespread the rule that one must play always together the couple prelude/fugue. Aside from being in the same key, most preludes have nothing in common with their fugue.They are completely different pieces and unrelated both musically and technically.

I see the point for Bach writing them, so he had 2 very different pieces for each key, so he showed in great detail the advantages of the temperament.

But for music schools and teachers demanding to play them together it makes no sense to me.

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It's true! For my exams I have to play sets! I begged my teacher to play the c minor fugue and the 10th prelude. (Such a beautiful one) but she said that the examinors don't let such a thing... It made me really sad... For example the c minor set im playing is consideted level 9 by the RCM. Which I call bullcrap on because that prelude is heck and actually considered really difficult! So yeah... It's kinda dumb honestly... Thank you for helping me out!

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Listen to the E major. The prelude is fairly easy and not fast. I like the melody. The fugue is more difficult, but you dont have to play it real fast.

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Thank you lots for your advice! You are really kind!^-^

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Also don't be shy! Give lots of suggestiins and opinions! I can't wait!^^

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Originally Posted by Small Pianist 66
Also don't be shy! Give lots of suggestiins and opinions! I can't wait!^^

Well at least in wtc 1, with your criteria, a fugue with 3 voices. Not too many trills and not too fast nor too long, i think you have all the candidates pretty much listed. In wtc 2 most pairs would be more difficult or longer.

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Just forget the exam and enjoy it.


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