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#3024889 09/14/20 07:25 AM
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Hello!
I'm new here so I'm not sure if this is the right forum section to ask this. Anyways, I'm selling an upright piano by Petrof (1969) and I'm not sure if my price is too high or not.
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It has one hardly visible crack on the deck, has to be tuned and filc has to be changed. I'm selling it for 1.000€. What do you think? Too much?

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It looks like none of your photo links work.


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Oh, man. I'll fix it. Thanks.

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damselsandra99 #3024894 09/14/20 07:42 AM
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What's a "filc"? Some kind of felt? The practice mute?
If you want to get the best price and sell it more quickly, I'd at least have it tuned and any glaring issues attended to.
Unfortunately, I know nothing about the European resale market, except that used piano pricing is definitely different than the North American continent.


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Yes, I meant felt. Isn't it useless to tune it tho, if the buyer is going to drive it and move it anyway? Doesn't that detune it again?

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Originally Posted by damselsandra99
Isn't it useless to tune it tho, if the buyer is going to drive it and move it anyway? Doesn't that detune it again?

There is no greater turnoff to a potential buyer than an out of tune piano. Especially if they came all the way to your house/apartment to see it.

Also, what felt do you believe needs to be replaced?

The serial number 157619 places it around 1971-1973.

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Okay, good to know. The guy that tuned my piano years ago, said that there's felt, I believe he meant the one behind the keys, that needs to be replaced.

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damselsandra99 #3024910 09/14/20 08:26 AM
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I am playing on a similar Petrof piano, and it seems the felt should be replaced is Hammer Rail Cloth and the pedal felts which makes a lot of noise.

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Pianosearcher #3024912 09/14/20 08:29 AM
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Originally Posted by Pianosearcher
Originally Posted by damselsandra99
Isn't it useless to tune it tho, if the buyer is going to drive it and move it anyway? Doesn't that detune it again?

There is no greater turnoff to a potential buyer than an out of tune piano. Especially if they came all the way to your house/apartment to see it.

Also, what felt do you believe needs to be replaced?

The serial number 157619 places it around 1971-1973.

I second this. If your piano is not in tune, a potential buyer will wonder how it really sounds, whether it can be properly tuned etc. And of course, you want your piano to sound its best when someone comes to play it, so that they will *want* to buy it.

In terms of the price, I also don't know much about the market for used pianos in Europe. But in the US, that price would be "ok" only if the piano was in good shape and could hold a tuning. Although, even then the price still might be a little high given that the piano is about 50 years old. have you looked at other people who are selling their pianos to see what kinds of prices they list? Also, you might compare your price to the price for a similarly age piano as sold by a piano dealer, and maybe think that your price should be maybe 30% less (since no warranty, no delivery). Maybe??

BTW your Petrof is very pretty! I'm biased of course because I owned a Petrof very similar to that, although it was made in 1989-1990. I loved that upright, it had a wonderful tone.

Good luck!

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I have just sold our Kawai upright KL502, made in 1984 .One of the things.I did was to have it tuned .The couple who bought it
really loved the mellow tone.
I have the bill from the tuning which shows the tuning date, so that they can see how well the tuning holds. At least they know that the pin block is healthy ( not cracked) and the piano
is worth the price they are paying.
I agree it is impossible to know what you are buying if a piano is out of tune. I wish you well in the sale of your Petrof piano.

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I too agree with others regarding tuning prior to a sale. A potential buyer can hear the tone and your chance of making a sale would increase significantly in a market full of privately sold untuned pianos. I have sold an old spinet to a guitarist who was comparison shopping because I tuned and polished it beforehand and he did notice that.

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damselsandra99 #3025034 09/14/20 01:34 PM
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I looked and it's very difficult to find Petrof's of this age. Thank you for your advice, I just went off of the advice that I got long time ago.
Thank you very much, I really took care of it and am pretty sad that I have to sell it. It sounds wonderful smile.
Good luck!

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damselsandra99 #3025039 09/14/20 01:45 PM
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I guess I'll have to tune it than. Sounds like it really adds to it. I just wasn't sure about it, because I bought it untuned. And surprisingly the sounds stays wonderful even after a long period of not being tuned.

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Originally Posted by damselsandra99
I guess I'll have to tune it than. Sounds like it really adds to it. I just wasn't sure about it, because I bought it untuned. And surprisingly the sounds stays wonderful even after a long period of not being tuned.
Yes it is

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Originally Posted by Pianosearcher
Originally Posted by damselsandra99
Isn't it useless to tune it tho, if the buyer is going to drive it and move it anyway? Doesn't that detune it again?

There is no greater turnoff to a potential buyer than an out of tune piano. Especially if they came all the way to your house/apartment to see it.

I once flew from Chicago to a dealer in New England only to be met with an out-of-tune piano and no piano tuner available...




...it was not delightful


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