2017 was our 20th year online!

Welcome to the Piano World Piano Forums
Over 3 million posts about pianos, digital pianos, and all types of keyboard instruments
Join the World's Largest Community of Piano Lovers (it's free)
It's Fun to Play the Piano ... Please Pass It On!

Shop our online store for music lovers
SEARCH
Piano Forums & Piano World
(ad)
Wessell Nickel & Gross
PianoForAll
(ad)
Best of Piano Buyer
 Best of Piano Buyer
(ad)
Faust Harrison Pianos
Faust Harrison 100+ Steinway pianos
Who's Online Now
74 members (Buzz209, anotherscott, 36251, cmb13, Anna B., David B, dima5222, clothearednincompo, 16 invisible), 505 guests, and 377 robots.
Key: Admin, Global Mod, Mod
(ad)
Estonia Pianos
Estonia Pianos
Previous Thread
Next Thread
Print Thread
Hop To
Yamaha "P116" vs "P116 T"
#3021986 09/06/20 01:09 PM
Joined: Sep 2020
Posts: 7
F
Junior Member
OP Offline
Junior Member
F
Joined: Sep 2020
Posts: 7
Hi,

Would you know what is the difference between the Yamaha "P116 T" and the "P116" ?
My "old" piano is still at my parent's ; it is a P116, probably made in Japan in 1988 based on its serial number. But the model on the frame reads "P166 T" so I am wondering for distinguishes it from a P116.

Thanks!

Franck

Re: Yamaha "P116" vs "P116 T"
franckdw #3022082 09/06/20 03:34 PM
Joined: Nov 2009
Posts: 3,655
J
3000 Post Club Member
Offline
3000 Post Club Member
J
Joined: Nov 2009
Posts: 3,655
Did you buy the piano in France?

Re: Yamaha "P116" vs "P116 T"
franckdw #3022088 09/06/20 03:41 PM
Joined: Mar 2006
Posts: 13,484
Yikes! 10000 Post Club Member
Offline
Yikes! 10000 Post Club Member
Joined: Mar 2006
Posts: 13,484
I was thinking the "T" could mean it was assembled at the Yamaha Thomaston Georgia (USA) plant (now closed), but perhaps those models had the "T" in the serial number rather than the model number.

There is a used piano dealer in the metro Atlanta Ga area that is originally from France, and still does business in France and other parts of Europe. It is possible he could have shipped the piano from Atlanta to France and sold it there. He buys, sells and moves/ships pianos internationally.

I'm curious to know what the "T" means myself.

Welcome to Piano World!

Rick


Piano enthusiast and amateur musician: "Treat others the way you would like to be treated". Yamaha C7. YouTube Channel
Re: Yamaha "P116" vs "P116 T"
Joseph Fleetwood #3022114 09/06/20 04:50 PM
Joined: Sep 2020
Posts: 7
F
Junior Member
OP Offline
Junior Member
F
Joined: Sep 2020
Posts: 7
Originally Posted by Joseph Fleetwood
Did you buy the piano in France?
Yes, Joseph, this Piano was bought in France (in Brittany) 30 years or so ago.

Re: Yamaha "P116" vs "P116 T"
franckdw #3022115 09/06/20 04:51 PM
Joined: Nov 2009
Posts: 3,655
J
3000 Post Club Member
Offline
3000 Post Club Member
J
Joined: Nov 2009
Posts: 3,655
That's why I was wondering if the piano was sold in France originally, because if it was, it's unlikely that it was made in Georgia, but if it was purchased in the USA, it might be a Georgia piano. Personally I'd find it unlikely that a dealer would ship a Yamaha upright from the USA to France since there were virtually identical models made at Kemble in London, and also ones shipped from Japan directly, but unlikely doesn't mean impossible or unheard of!

Re: Yamaha "P116" vs "P116 T"
Rickster #3022120 09/06/20 05:02 PM
Joined: Sep 2020
Posts: 7
F
Junior Member
OP Offline
Junior Member
F
Joined: Sep 2020
Posts: 7
Originally Posted by Rickster
Welcome to Piano World!

Rick
Thanks, Rick!

Re: Yamaha "P116" vs "P116 T"
franckdw #3022138 09/06/20 05:42 PM
Joined: Sep 2018
Posts: 101
Full Member
Online Content
Full Member
Joined: Sep 2018
Posts: 101
If the P116 was produced by Kemble in the UK in 1988 it will have an E at the front of the serial number.

Re: Yamaha "P116" vs "P116 T"
franckdw #3022186 09/06/20 07:20 PM
Joined: Nov 2009
Posts: 3,655
J
3000 Post Club Member
Offline
3000 Post Club Member
J
Joined: Nov 2009
Posts: 3,655
Originally Posted by franckdw
Originally Posted by Joseph Fleetwood
Did you buy the piano in France?
Yes, Joseph, this Piano was bought in France (in Brittany) 30 years or so ago.

Well, it's unlikely to be a Georgia USA piano, but perhaps it *could* be. It's feasible that some American-assembled pianos were shipped over to Europe?

Have you tried checking the serial number or asking Yamaha about it?

Re: Yamaha "P116" vs "P116 T"
franckdw #3022556 09/07/20 04:39 PM
Joined: Sep 2020
Posts: 7
F
Junior Member
OP Offline
Junior Member
F
Joined: Sep 2020
Posts: 7
So I asked Yamaha France:
-It is indeed a piano built in Japan in 1988 for the European market
-The "T" is related to an (unspecified) specific finish

Mystery (partially) solved. Thanks!

Now I need to decide what to do with it. It does not seem practical to move it to my apartment in Paris and to retrofit a silent system). So I will probably buy a digital piano as I can no longer live without a piano ... and we'll see!

Re: Yamaha "P116" vs "P116 T"
franckdw #3022565 09/07/20 05:06 PM
Joined: Mar 2006
Posts: 13,484
Yikes! 10000 Post Club Member
Offline
Yikes! 10000 Post Club Member
Joined: Mar 2006
Posts: 13,484
Sounds good. Glad you got the info you were looking for.

I think the Yamaha uprights that were assembled at the plant in Thomaston Georgia (USA) has a "T" in the serial number rather than the model number.

All the best!

Rick


Piano enthusiast and amateur musician: "Treat others the way you would like to be treated". Yamaha C7. YouTube Channel
Re: Yamaha "P116" vs "P116 T"
franckdw #3022585 09/07/20 06:28 PM
Joined: Nov 2009
Posts: 3,655
J
3000 Post Club Member
Offline
3000 Post Club Member
J
Joined: Nov 2009
Posts: 3,655
Yeah retrofitting a silent system into it is going to be EXPENSIVE! Best just have a digital and the P116 and enjoy it.

I wish I had an apartment in Paris!

Re: Yamaha "P116" vs "P116 T"
Joseph Fleetwood #3024303 09/12/20 12:57 PM
Joined: Sep 2020
Posts: 7
F
Junior Member
OP Offline
Junior Member
F
Joined: Sep 2020
Posts: 7
Originally Posted by Joseph Fleetwood
Best just have a digital and the P116 and enjoy it.
Most likely a Kawai CA79 after having spent some time playing a few. Thanks!


Moderated by  Ken Knapp, Piano World 

Link Copied to Clipboard
(ad)
Pianoteq
PianoTeq Karsten Collection
(ad)
PianoDisc

PianoDisc
(ad)
Piano Life Saver - Dampp Chaser
Dampp Chaser Piano Life Saver
(ad)
Mason & Hamlin Pianos
What's Hot!!
News from the Piano World
Our October 2020 Free Piano Newsletter is Here!
---------------------
3,000,000+!
------------------
Posting Pictures on the Forums
-------------------
Forums RULES & HELP
-------------------
ADVERTISE on Piano World
New Topics - Multiple Forums
Gospel-Jazz Chord Progression & Scale
by BB666 - 10/30/20 07:33 AM
Guitar Center Mulls Restructuring
by newer player - 10/30/20 12:44 AM
Anthony Hopkins / National Cat Day
by MH1963 - 10/29/20 09:38 PM
Download Sheet Music
Virtual Sheet Music - Classical Sheet Music Downloads
Forum Statistics
Forums41
Topics202,489
Posts3,018,746
Members99,068
Most Online15,252
Mar 21st, 2010
Please Support Our Advertisers


Faust Harrison 100+ Steinways

Dampp Chaser Piano Life Saver

 Best of Piano Buyer

PianoTeq Bechstein
Visit our online store for gifts for music lovers

Virtual Sheet Music - Classical Sheet Music Downloads



 
Help keep the forums up and running with a donation, any amount is appreciated!
Or by becoming a Subscribing member! Thank-you.
Donate   Subscribe
 
Our Piano Related Classified Ads
| Dealers | Tuners | Lessons | Movers | Restorations | Pianos For Sale | Sell Your Piano |

Advertise on Piano World
| Subscribe | Piano World | PianoSupplies.com | Advertise on Piano World |
| |Contact | Privacy | Legal | About Us | Site Map | Free Newsletter |


copyright 1997 - 2020 Piano World ® all rights reserved
No part of this site may be reproduced without prior written permission
Powered by UBB.threads™ PHP Forum Software 7.7.4