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Re: Upright Advice
Supply #3019020 08/29/20 12:09 PM
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Originally Posted by Supply
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OK I am sorry . Sauter has had this action for quite a long time.
Double Repetition has always been Sauters and Ulrich Sauters description not mine .This other thread of a Sauter MC has just knocked me sideways for the time being.

I would really appreciate it if you would edit your original post and remove the ad hominem attack on me. That post is a stain on your otherwise brilliant reputation here.
What would you like me to say to that Supply ?
The device has been always historically been called "Double Repetition" The double R appears on every Sauter piano in the
taller uprights.
I cannot edit my original post , and I am sure you know that.
As for "stain" on my billiant reputation ., I fear your cynicism is
just as much "ad hominem " as you term it .
Recently in a "fun comparison of cars and pianos" someone compared Sauter to an a car which had a history of exploding,
and burning people alive ,even an awful picture of the car was
provided. When this hateful material was removed the poster
without much any consideration provided a picture of a Killdozer steam roller.He was not penalized, I believe.
For the next few days ,every time I looked at my piano , all
I could think about was the women , the child, the people that were maimed or killed in that car. How do you think this affected me ?
People know me here here .My reputation may be one of a person who can be oversensitive when it comes to Sauter pianos. But I am never deliberately mean, or arrogant and I tend to forget my conflicts here quickly. So I do not know what you mean about my
"brilliant reputation" ?

Re: Upright Advice
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Originally Posted by JazzPianoOnline
The YUS line, as far as I'm aware, is made more or less to the specs of the CFX concert grand in terms of the strings, soundboard wood quality and felt used in the hammers.

It is pretty much the best upright piano available today.

I disagree, this is a better piano. C.Bechstein Concert 8
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Re: Upright Advice
Jazzerno1 #3019083 08/29/20 02:43 PM
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Yes the C Bechstein C8 is a wonderful instrument, however my search is over and I love the Sauter piano I have. I am happy with it and I love it completely.
It is the piano that fulfills my creative urge ,"heals my wounds"
and encourages my musical imagination.
There is always something theoretically better but why would one need to search further if you love your piano and you are fulfilled.
So to the OP whatever the brand, find something you love.

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Re: Upright Advice
Colin Miles #3019093 08/29/20 03:06 PM
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Originally Posted by Colin Miles
For what is it worth I was in the Coach House yesterday morning trying out the Sauter Masterclass 122 as the 2000 Special limited edition had created a lot of interest. The latter has been sold but someone else insisted that they wanted that one and have apparently persuaded Sauter to make another. Anyway I tried the actions on the Sauter Masterclass and that was probably the best compared with a Yamaha SE which was the heaviest, a Kawai K300 which may have been the lightest, the Steingreiber & Sohne 130 and the Sauter 2000 special edition.
What is the Sauter 2000 Special Edition ? Is it a special MC series or is it just one of the regular Sauter pianos called Special Edition"
I have seen online what has been called a "Jubilee" model advertised in Europe probably made for the 200th anniversary of Sauter .,perhaps that is the one ?

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Originally Posted by Lady Bird
Originally Posted by Colin Miles
For what is it worth I was in the Coach House yesterday morning trying out the Sauter Masterclass 122 as the 2000 Special limited edition had created a lot of interest. The latter has been sold but someone else insisted that they wanted that one and have apparently persuaded Sauter to make another. Anyway I tried the actions on the Sauter Masterclass and that was probably the best compared with a Yamaha SE which was the heaviest, a Kawai K300 which may have been the lightest, the Steingreiber & Sohne 130 and the Sauter 2000 special edition.
What is the Sauter 2000 Special Edition ? Is it a special MC series or is it just one of the regular Sauter pianos called Special Edition"
I have seen online what has been called a "Jubilee" model advertised in Europe probably made for the 200th anniversary of Sauter .,perhaps that is the one ?
I think it says '2000 Jahr' not 200 but I will check that. It is a very nice looking 'oak' piano. I think it is a 122 but don't know if it has any other special features which distinguishes it from a 122 MC.

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Re: Upright Advice
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Originally Posted by Supply
Originally Posted by JazzPianoOnline
The YUS line, as far as I'm aware, is made more or less to the specs of the CFX concert grand in terms of the strings, soundboard wood quality and felt used in the hammers.

It is pretty much the best upright piano available today.

I am not sure exactly what criteria are used to find "the best" piano. There is probably some subjectivity involved in such a designation. For some, it may indeed be the best upright available, if one chooses to ignore the offerings from Sauter, Bechstein, Steingraeber, Förster etc.

To name just a few to ignore

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Originally Posted by Supply
Originally Posted by JazzPianoOnline
The YUS line, as far as I'm aware, is made more or less to the specs of the CFX concert grand in terms of the strings, soundboard wood quality and felt used in the hammers.

It is pretty much the best upright piano available today.

I am not sure exactly what criteria are used to find "the best" piano. There is probably some subjectivity involved in such a designation. For some, it may indeed be the best upright available, if one chooses to ignore the offerings from Sauter, Bechstein, Steingraeber, Förster etc.

To name just a few to ignore
Wow really !
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Re: Upright Advice
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Originally Posted by Supply
Originally Posted by Lady Bird
OK I am sorry . Sauter has had this action for quite a long time.
Double Repetition has always been Sauters and Ulrich Sauters description not mine .This other thread of a Sauter MC has just knocked me sideways for the time being.

I would really appreciate it if you would edit your original post and remove the ad hominem attack on me. That post is a stain on your otherwise brilliant reputation here.
So 'OK I am sorry', as said by LadyBird, is insufficient for you?
Ian
Thanks Ian, and I am sure you are still loving your beautiful Bluthner !

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Lady Bird #3019453 08/30/20 03:16 PM
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Ladybird,
Oh yes I enjoy playing it ever day. I just wish I hadn't given up my lessons 60 years ago after reaching grade 4. My teacher wrote to my mother and said that as I obviously was not practicing enough I should stop the lessons. History repeats itself as my current saxophone teacher is likely to write to my wife to say the same thing 😆.
Here is one of my recent You Tube videos which I make for my friends:
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Re: Upright Advice
Colin Miles #3019504 08/30/20 05:03 PM
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Hi Colin,

I’m guessing you played on the SE132 I’d had my eye on. It’s sold sadly otherwise I’d have been going for that.

What did you think of the Steingrieber and Sohne?

Ben

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Originally Posted by Beemer
Ladybird,
Oh yes I enjoy playing it ever day. I just wish I hadn't given up my lessons 60 years ago after reaching grade 4. My teacher wrote to my mother and said that as I obviously was not practicing enough I should stop the lessons. History repeats itself as my current saxophone teacher is likely to write to my wife to say the same thing 😆.
Here is one of my recent You Tube videos which I make for my friends:
https://youtu.be/ezGlhZWV81M
Ian
I have not listened yet Beemer, I am having coffee with my husband. (risking my life ?) Had a laugh about your music teacher writing a letter to your wife ! I do not think 🤔 you
would want that .

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Originally Posted by Beemer
Ladybird,
Oh yes I enjoy playing it ever day. I just wish I hadn't given up my lessons 60 years ago after reaching grade 4. My teacher wrote to my mother and said that as I obviously was not practicing enough I should stop the lessons. History repeats itself as my current saxophone teacher is likely to write to my wife to say the same thing 😆.
Here is one of my recent You Tube videos which I make for my friends:
https://youtu.be/ezGlhZWV81M
Ian
Ian
Very nice !
I love the sound of your Bluthner , and your romantic style.
Just keep up the good work .,You teacher will send your wife star ,and glowing report ! Joking aside ,you are getting on fine !

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Re: Upright Advice
Jazzerno1 #3020108 09/01/20 07:10 AM
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Let me join the topic with strange question... is there standard floor to white key height in uprights? In my old German it is 75cm... is this the same in new pianos, or the 130 model from top manufacturers are 70-72cm like grands?

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Let me join the topic with strange question... is there standard floor to white key height in uprights? In my old German it is 75cm... is this the same in new pianos, or the 130 model from top manufacturers are 70-72cm like grands?

There is no standard. Different manufacturer, different height.

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Just wondering if the OP has tried any of the W Hoffman by
Bechstein.They may be worth considering and fall within your
price range. I think the CBECHSTEIN academy series is also worth thinking about but are higher priced than the W Hoffman. While I am not sure if I tried the Academy series(I do not remember) ,I have tried the W Hoffman. I think the Tradition series worth trying.

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Just wondering what the OP decided about the Yamaha SE or the Yus5? Why I mentioned the W Hoffman was because I thought the price would be similar to the new YUS 5 .It is of course difficult to find these pianos.

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