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Kronos 2 Pianos and keyaction
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Hi. I'm trying to find a musically satisfying piano program, for solo playing on my Kronos 2. I am not having much success. I was running it as an upper keyboard with a FP90 ono the bottom for piano, and electric pianos..etc.. and life was good. Due to financial pressures during the pandemic - I let my FP90 go, and consolidated to a one keyboard rig. The Kronos is an amazing keyboard overall - but I am really struggling to find a piano instrument to center my playing around. So I have three questions.

Are there Krono users out there who have gone through the same frustration as me - and either edited one of their top stock patches with the piano design functions, eq, IXF's or key action settings etc.. to get a very satisfying stock sound?

My second is - are there any using third party "designed for Kronos" piano patches that do the trick?

Lastly have any users successfully mated the Kronos with Pianoteq or other VST's... and created an expressive instrument? Does the RH3 play these programs seamlessly? Expressively?


I wonder if any of this is possible with the RH3 Key action and its response curves. But let me know if you've found a sweet, singing, inspiring piano sound working via the Kronos... I'd be very appreciative! Cheers! smile

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There is a free Salamander Piano (Yamaha C5) you can install. See the YouTube video and follow the links.

https://youtu.be/WqqL144Kxh0

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I've got the Salamander C5 - it's definitely worth a try. It's a very nicely sampled and balanced piano. It doesn't have that Earth shattering bottom end because it's not a concert grand, but in terms of enjoyment to play and hitting that elusive sweet spot, it's very nice. The only thing it doesn't have is the sympathetic resonance features of the SGX2 pianos.

I can relate to your problem. I've tweaked my pianos extensively. I'm always changing my mind about different aspects of my Kronos pianos. Usually it's a few notes or a register that doesn't quite play well with the rest of the range. The Bechstein for example, is my favourite, except there are about 3 notes that drive me mad which stop me from playing it as my main piano! I tend to alternate between my own tweaks of the Japanese grand and the German grand. Although I have been tempted to buy the Austrian Grand. It sounds good on the samples, but I'm afraid there will be a handful of notes that make me not want to play it!

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Originally Posted by GWILLY
Are there Krono users out there who have gone through the same frustration as me - and either edited one of their top stock patches with the piano design functions, eq, IXF's or key action settings etc.. to get a very satisfying stock sound?

My second is - are there any using third party "designed for Kronos" piano patches that do the trick?

Lastly have any users successfully mated the Kronos with Pianoteq or other VST's... and created an expressive instrument? Does the RH3 play these programs seamlessly? Expressively?


I wonder if any of this is possible with the RH3 Key action and its response curves. But let me know if you've found a sweet, singing, inspiring piano sound working via the Kronos... I'd be very appreciative! Cheers! smile
Hi there,

1) The Kronos can deliver excellent piano sounds, you just need to customize some piano programs to your taste. The big advantage of the Kronos over most "conventional" DPs is that instead of having a few dozens parameters to play with, in HD-1 mode * (more below) you have access to hundreds of them per program. Here's a video where I play one of my custom piano programs featuring the Bechstein : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ieRwcS_mlJI. If you want, just listen to the first 30 seconds to hear how it sounds played more softly and then around 04:00 I really like how the piano sounds when played louder - very full, yet without being too aggressive like some stock programs at ff and +. Of course, tastes vary from one person to the next so you might instead think it's just meh.

2) I tried many third party acoustic pianos and IMHO none of them gets halfway close to what Korg programmed for the Kronos. My favorite is the Bechstein/Berlin, followed by the Fazioli/Italian and finally the Steinway/German. I deleted the Yamaha/Japanese after I bought the new Fazioli/Italian, as it became totally useless to my ears. So now, I practice classical daily using only those three pianos. The RH3 is not the most sophisticated action for acoustic piano, but on the other hand it is extremely reliable, solid and comfortable to play. I'm sure it can easily be used to control any external VST.

* There are good acoustic piano programs both in SGX-2 and HD-1 modes. Each of them offers different advantages and it's possible to get excellent customized programs with both engines. On one hand, the SGX-2 is easier to master and offers modeled sympathetic resonance and the usual noise and damper artifacts. On the other hand, the HD-1 lets you control many more aspects like velocity, timbre, etc.


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