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Why are piano sheets for the same song wildly different?
#3013622 08/14/20 12:52 AM
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Different from one another.

I was listening to this (8:30) Song by SIA - Chandelier (a demo of Shigeru Kawai, I really like this version)
https://youtu.be/zkW1jxI2Tq0?list=RDzkW1jxI2Tq0&t=508

I wanted to learn how to play it so I looked up tutorials on Youtube and found them wildly different. How do you figure out the best one? It seems obvious that what you hear / like is the best...but I couldn't tell very well. Perhaps my ears is not yet attuned.

https://youtu.be/sLIMjoHCE38

https://youtu.be/JjZcFMcHZSg

https://youtu.be/vfTy4sntc3A

https://youtu.be/5BGM0udps7A

https://youtu.be/8SzgiFTbEqE


So what gives? What so different from one another and how do you determine the best one?

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Re: Why are piano sheets for the same song wildly different?
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Not knowing the "song" in question but reading the Youtube titles, these are "covers" (I don't like that term) which means that they are arrangements of different performers performing their individual arrangement of the song. That's just what happens in pop music. Someone makes a hit out of a song - often a singer with a full band accompanying him/her - and then others make their own arrangements. Each arranger has a different concept of the song and how to portray that concept.

There is no "best." Pick the one you like.

You should be asking questions about this genre of music in the non-classical forum; people there may know more than we do since most questions here - though certainly not all - relate to classical music or piano lessons.

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Well that song "Sia - Chandelier" is not originally written for the piano. Well, I mean technically, there is a piano version but the piano part would be the accompanying background music, while Sia sings.

You're looking at essentially different covers (arrangements) of the song to try to replicate the vocal melody as well all with a piano. There's no "official" version.

Like you said, the "best one" is the one that sounds best to you that you can play with your skill level.
If they're all good enough, just pick one and go with it. There's no real right or wrong answer here.

If you have all the different sheet music available, I would try to play all of the ones you like and see which one feel more fun. You can even improvise and combine or add elements to make your own version of the song.

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That makes sense now. So many insights I learned.

-these are covers
-there's no official
-this song is not a piano song but interpretation of the vocal of the song
-if there's a piano in the song, it's a background one


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Originally Posted by BruceD
Not knowing the "song" in question

For reals? That song is literally everywhere. It's actually kind of catchy.


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Not sure what your current level is but keep in mind some composers, such as, Francesco Parrino, Constantino Cararra, etc. tend to have arrangements that are very complex. Make sure you pick one at your current level and remember pop has tons of improvising so if you need to adjust it go for it. This is all stuff I learned here not too long ago and it was really helpful for me.

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Originally Posted by BruceD
Not knowing the "song" in question

For reals? That song is literally everywhere. It's actually kind of catchy.

Yes, for "reals," as you say. I never listen to pop music. There's so much I don't know!

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In my opinion the quality of a pop arrangement is mainly determined by the quality of its right hand part. If you listen to the last arrangement on your list
https://youtu.be/8SzgiFTbEqE
you'll see how basic and just dumb the right hand part is there. All these repeating notes and chords are almost unbearable and they will make you sound like a kindergarten band. And most pop arrangements are like that, unfortunately. The thing is that it's not difficult to make a good pop accompaniment in the left hand part, there are many known templates for that, but it's very difficult and it requires enormous creativity and good taste to make interesting right hand part around the melody. So my advice would be to look at the right hand. If it is basic with many repeating notes then it's a bad arrangement, and if it sounds interesting it's a good arrangement and you've probably found a gem.


One fellow of mine said that nothing has ever improved his touch better than playing pop covers, because in them you need to play one note ten times in a row and every time play it differently. 🤣

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Originally Posted by Iaroslav Vasiliev
In my opinion the quality of a pop arrangement is mainly determined by the quality of its right hand part. If you listen to the last arrangement on your list
https://youtu.be/8SzgiFTbEqE
you'll see how basic and just dumb the right hand part is there. All these repeating notes and chords are almost unbearable and they will make you sound like a kindergarten band. And most pop arrangements are like that, unfortunately. The thing is that it's not difficult to make a good pop accompaniment in the left hand part, there are many known templates for that, but it's very difficult and it requires enormous creativity and good taste to make interesting right hand part around the melody. So my advice would be to look at the right hand. If it is basic with many repeating notes then it's a bad arrangement, and if it sounds interesting it's a good arrangement and you've probably found a gem.
To me a good pop arrangement is one that brings up inner lines as well. If there are other instruments or singers accompanying then the piano arrangement should combine all of them just like in piano reductions of classical concert pieces.

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Originally Posted by Qazsedcft
To me a good pop arrangement is one that brings up inner lines as well. If there are other instruments or singers accompanying then the piano arrangement should combine all of them just like in piano reductions of classical concert pieces.
Yes, a good point, too.


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