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smallest weighted keys piano for traveling?
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Beginner here, looking for an option to practice while traveling (via air) and I have been looking for a possible compromise with weighted/semi-weighted keys.

If I want weighted keys, I need to go to a minimum of 88 keys and these are all heavy.

If semi-weighted are acceptable, there are quite a few 61-key options but these are not good for traveling either.

I cannot find any semi-weighted option in either 49 (not quite good for travel, can't fit into a luggage) or 37 keys (ideal for air travel)

I am currently trying this setup: IK irig 37-key keys 2 pro MIDI controller coupled with an ipad (i am using yousician). good thing is that it is light, it has almost full size keys. No speaker but I could connect my earphones so that's not an issue. However, drawback is the range (only 37 key but maybe that's a compromise I have to make if i want to keep the length to within 24" to fit into a luggage, and given that I am just a beginner that serve my purpose)

The non-weighted keys are what drive me to see if there are better options out there.

Is what I am looking for pretty much non-existent?

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If you don't need weighted keys, maybe you could like this 88-keys portable keyboard:

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This is another one (splittable in two parts):
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The Yamaha P121 is only 73 keys, with hammer action.

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Originally Posted by magicpiano
If you don't need weighted keys, maybe you could like this 88-keys portable keyboard:

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This is another one (splittable in two parts):
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magicpiano, you took the time to post pictures but didn’t give the name of the manufacturer or a link? Not very useful without that info.


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Originally Posted by magicpiano
If you don't need weighted keys, maybe you could like this 88-keys portable keyboard:

[Linked Image]

This is another one (splittable in two parts):
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magicpiano, you took the time to post pictures but didn’t give the name of the manufacturer or a link? Not very useful without that info.

Google reverse image search?


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John305 #3012038 08/09/20 05:51 PM
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Originally Posted by John305
magicpiano, you took the time to post pictures but didn’t give the name of the manufacturer or a link? Not very useful without that info.
Sorry, you can easily find them if you write "foldable piano keyboard" in google search. wink

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I found this too:



If you wonder what that click is... It's the micro-switch noise of the sustain pedal!

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None of these seem to offer a semi weighted feeling which is what I am after.

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Unweighted and semi-weighted are much closer to each other than either is to a hammer action. It's even possible to find some unweighted actions (like Yamaha NP series) that play better than some semi-weighted actions. There's a lot of variation in the feel among different unweighted actions and among different semiweighted actions (and different hammer actions, for that matter). But the bottom line is that I'd be surprised if there's any nice feeling 37.

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Below are a few options.

1. Commercial digital pianos chopped
http://www.minetticustomkeyboards.com/

2. DIY your own portable piano
http://forum.pianoworld.com/ubbthre...eight-travel-piano-61-weighted-keys.html
http://files.luite.com/piano/

3.Piano de voyage foldable digital piano (non-weighted, springy keys for first version)
https://pianodevoyage.com/

4. Phoenix foldable digital piano
https://www.adelehmusic.com/

5. Kaduk Respons (can customise with any number of keys)
https://www.kaduk.nl/#digital#!/tproduct/135981434-1582980242666

The Minetti family chops digital pianos. With industrial actions from Yamaha, Casio etc., no folding joints, and a few years of "chopping" experience, this would be my choice. At least one person at PianoWorld purchased a chopped piano.

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Originally Posted by magicpiano
I found this too:



If you wonder what that click is... It's the micro-switch noise of the sustain pedal!
I played these one and found it infuriating... Just my impression.


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Originally Posted by magicpiano
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magicpiano, you took the time to post pictures but didn’t give the name of the manufacturer or a link? Not very useful without that info.
Sorry, you can easily find them if you write "foldable piano keyboard" in google search. wink

Doesn't work.


But "foldable piano keyboard -soft -roll -up" is better...

For example : https://foldano.com/


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Originally Posted by magicpiano
I found this too:



If you wonder what that click is... It's the micro-switch noise of the sustain pedal!
I played these one and found it infuriating... Just my impression.
I believe you. I guess its keys are not velocity sensitive, so it's more like an organ keyboard. Well, consider that's just a cool toy.


I found this too, the Yamaha PSS-A50, a 37-keys touch-sensitive keyboard with arpeggiator, 42 instruments and 32 notes polyphony:

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interesting to see all these options out there.

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Originally Posted by zzzero
Beginner here, looking for an option to practice while traveling (via air) and I have been looking for a possible compromise with weighted/semi-weighted keys.

If I want weighted keys, I need to go to a minimum of 88 keys and these are all heavy.

If semi-weighted are acceptable, there are quite a few 61-key options but these are not good for traveling either.

I cannot find any semi-weighted option in either 49 (not quite good for travel, can't fit into a luggage) or 37 keys (ideal for air travel)

I am currently trying this setup: IK irig 37-key keys 2 pro MIDI controller coupled with an ipad (i am using yousician). good thing is that it is light, it has almost full size keys. No speaker but I could connect my earphones so that's not an issue. However, drawback is the range (only 37 key but maybe that's a compromise I have to make if i want to keep the length to within 24" to fit into a luggage, and given that I am just a beginner that serve my purpose)

The non-weighted keys are what drive me to see if there are better options out there.

Is what I am looking for pretty much non-existent?


Yamaha Reface series. I'd go with DX. Very fun to play with the FM engine and can act as a MIDI controller too. You can find Reface boards for really good price.

And of course Korg microKEY 37 and AIR 37.

There are actually several of 37 keys keyboards out there. Here is an example link for you:

https://www.sweetwater.com/c513--37-key_MIDI_Controllers

Now that you know how many 37-keys keyboards are there, either buy a decent one or save your money to buy a decent one. Forget about the iRig stuff.

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I have a travel setup with a Korg Microkey 61 and I like it very much. If you don't have wide fingers, it's great. Like a clavichord it forces you to be very precise with your fingers.
I tend to use a harpsichord or (even better) clavichord sound with it since with 61 keys, baroque is a good choice anyway wink
It connects to an iphone (older one with a headphone jack) and either ravenscroft ios or the ruckers harpsichord app.

... and it all fits a backpack that will hold the keyboard, a keyboard stand, music stand, pedal, etc.

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Yep, I don't know of any weighted or hammer action keyboards in this size.

I think the best options have probably already been listed - I'd try a Yamaha Reface, Korg Microkey, or maybe the Novation Launchkey MK3 37 when it's available.

There's also the Akai MPK Mini Play if you wanted something really small to play around with, it's only 25 keys but has pads :-)

For some curve-ball options, there's some interesting 37 key synths - Korg Minilogue/Wavestate/MicroKORG and Novation MiniNova/UltraNova. But they would fill all your carry on space, probably aren't what you want and probably need mains power :-)

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Originally Posted by zzzero
None of these seem to offer a semi weighted feeling which is what I am after.

Actually now I think of it, the old Novation Impulse controllers are semi-weighted. From the little I've read I think they're still popular due to key feel. You'd have to choose between 25/49/61 keys though.

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Originally Posted by Keybender
I have a travel setup with a Korg Microkey 61 and I like it very much. If you don't have wide fingers, it's great. Like a clavichord it forces you to be very precise with your fingers.
But don't you learn the wrong distances and don't you get into trouble when you play on a regular sized piano when you are back home again?


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If you serious about practicing on the road full size keys are a must.

As far as I know there is no cheap portable weighted keys on the market.

My experience is that any of these portable keyboards will not let you practice the piano very well.

With that being sad they are immensely useful tools for practicing ear training, figuring out fingering and slow practicing pieces.

I bought myself a Roland go:piano for my travels. Initially I was disappointed with the instrument(for playing piano) after I realized it shortcomings I use it for forementioned activities

and find it very usefull.

If I had to buy it again I would get one of the cheaper Casio Casiotone, 61-Key Portable Keyboard.

1/3 of the price of the Roland can do exactly what I need it to do.

Good luck


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