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Interesting videos, and thanks for posting! In both videos, the piano sounded rather bright, and almost like a harpsichord, although it still sounded good. There are good kinds of bright on a piano.  Like I said, if the piano were closer, I might be more interested. I honestly avoid traveling to Atlanta unless it is an absolute necessity, for various reasons. Still, an interesting Steinway upright piano indeed, and at a relatively low price, although I have no idea of the true condition. Rick The first piano was incredibly bright with real twang.But still playable by someone who likes that sound or really needs a piano ,and cannot pay that much. I actually was surprised with the presenter playing that sonatina.I cannot remember the name of the piece (was it a sonatina ? ) but I do remember a young piano pupil of mine playing the same piece.In fact I think he played it at a music teachers recital once and he played it almost in the same way as that gentleman played it . Although the piano he played it on sounded nothing like that . The second piano sounded much nicer to me.Although still very bright,perhaps if it was voiced ? It had nice fluffy hammers still ,which surprised me.
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The piano played by James Pavel. I am not saying it is a great piano, but I have seen some of the awful pianos some kids have to practice on , it sounds better.I am relying on a video recording , so are you.We have not actually played it so we really do not know. Saying that I was really disappointed by two new K52 uprights and the shorter institutional Steinways piano-- especially considering the price. You have actually played this model so I believe what you say--that it sounds more like a child's toy.
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It may be cute, but if its innards are those of the 4510, it's no bargain. The 4510 lists for about &35,000 and is utterly mediocre. I think it is the worst price/performance of any piano currently on the market. It is not a 4510. The Pianino was a different scale. As far as comments on the videos, I have to say that I encourage kids like James to make videos that are watched by other young people. He obviously knew nothing about what he saw and kind of discovered lots of the attributes as he was taping. He got a few things wrong but most of his observations were ok. I have enjoyed restoring these instruments for families and just to have them available in our showroom. It was technically available until 1962, but it was an expensive piano and I don't think many were made after the 1940's. I will add that with the right work they can be very nice instruments and not "toy pianos" at all. However, if you are playing 80 year old hammers in an 80 year old action and the most work you do is refinishing, sadly that is the result.
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Well, no matter what I don't think there's a better $400 piano out there. if it was within 500 miles of me it would already be mine !  And of course, it has already sold.
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He obviously knew nothing about what he saw and kind of discovered lots of the attributes as he was taping. I think that's par for this particular course! 
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