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Upgraded from Kawai GM10 to a GX2
#3009329 Yesterday at 01:03 AM
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I posted here recently about my considering an upgrade from a Kawai GM10 baby grand (5' 0") that we've had for about 10 years to a new Kawai GX2 (5" 11"), primarily for the benefit of our teen daughter who grew up learning how to play piano on the GM10. Was skeptical about whether the upgrade would be worth it and whether I would be even able to tell the difference but, wow, when our daughter played a few songs on the GX2 at the piano store the significantly better sound quality of the GX2 was immediately apparent even to me. The new piano really sings beautifully and puts more life into the familiar piano pieces that were played on the older piano.

I was considering going even bigger and getting a GX3 (6" 2") or maybe (if there were a good enough of a deal) even a GX5 (6' 7"), but I'm now glad that we didn't because the GX2 is plenty powerful enough for the size of the room that the piano is in.

One small item about the piano, though: We've noticed that one of the bass keys sounds a bit different from the adjacent bass keys on the piano. When the key is tapped the sound sounds a bit muffled even though it is playing the proper note (we checked with an iPhone app and confirmed that it is indeed close to the proper note). I opened up the lid of the piano and looked at the string corresponding to the problem key but didn't see any obvious difference between this particular string and nearby strings. Any ideas what the problem could be? I plan to call up the piano store that we bought the piano from on Monday to report the problem to see if anything can be done about it.

Anyway, aside from that little matter the new Kawai GX2 sounds great. Really happy with it and glad that we took the plunge to upgrade.

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The one key that sounds different will probably be because of the felt or the string. Maybe the felt is harder or softer or something is wrong with the string (maybe it needed to be replaced and is therefore different).
Whatever the reason, your piano tuner will be able to handle it without too much of a problem.

Congrats to your new piano - I am jealous! You mentioned in your post that your daughter plays. Maybe you want to consider learning to play yourself - it’s a ton of fun!


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Thanks, Lucubrate and Gretel.
As for learning to play the piano, yes, you read my mind. I was so impressed by the sound of the new piano that earlier today I bought a book on piano playing for beginning adults and was slowly and studiously plonking out the melody of "Ode to Joy" on the new piano just awhile ago. I have a long way to go to catch up to my daughter, but on the other hand I'm recently retired so I have plenty of time to devote to a new hobby. Plus, after spending a career doing scientific research I figure that piano playing will be good exercise for the right half of my brain.

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Congrats on your piano and may you enjoy much plonking! Share a pic if you can.

I can’t tell you anything about that note that’s off, except to say it will surely be a quick fix, so don’t worry too much about it. Although, let us know what it was.

And if you’re interested in connecting with a bunch of adult beginner players, stop over in the Adult Beginners Forum here at PW:

http://forum.pianoworld.com/ubbthreads.php/forums/30/1.html


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Nice choice, I remember the thread when you were thinking about this purchase.


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Congratulations on your grand piano upgrade! I'm happy for you!

Based on your discription on the offending bass note, it probably needs a minor adjustment. The piano store tech should be able to take care of that for you. Or, if you just play it a bit, it might take care of itself. smile

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Congratulations, Sammy111. Lots of fun playing your new GX2!


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Congratulations on your new Kawai GX-2!

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Good for you, Sammi111! I had the opportunity to play a GX2 for about a week last summer. It was a very satisfying piano.

If your daughter has played several years, you may help the both of you by letting her teach you. By teaching you, she will have to manipulate, examine, and evaluate her existing knowledge in ways that her current means of learning do not utilize or require. Teaching you could have a very positive effect on the depth and breadth of her own understanding of what she learns.

Since you bought a beginner method book, I assume you are comfortable proceeding outside the traditional avenue of paying a professional teacher to teach you.


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Thanks, everyone. Also, will notify the piano tech to look at the key with the slightly muffled tone.

Will also look into the adult beginner's forum here on PianoWorld. As for my own lessons, I'm thinking of just starting off on my own learning the basics with a book and with the help of the two pianists in our family (daughter and wife) to correct any significant problems with the basics like hand positioning. We'll see how it goes. At some point in time I may take lessons from a professional teacher if I advance further.

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Congratulations Sammy111 on your new Kawai GX2! The key that sounds a bit off might just be new piano settling in. Pianos are incredibly intricate and strings stretch and wood and felt settle, so little things may show up and are typically an easy adjustment by your piano technician. Best Wishes that both you and your daughter can really enjoy your new GX.


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Congratulations on your beautiful Kawai GX grand.The different sound in the string is probably something small and will probably just correct itself as the piano adjusts like J&J suggests.
Enjoy your wonderful piano!

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Congratulations with your new piano!

Regarding the timbral difference you've noticed in the bass: I play an SK-2, which is of a comparable design to a GX-2. Even though the whole key range has beautiful transitions, there's a single place where I notice the transition between keys when playing forte/fortissimo, even if subtle, and that is from F#1 to G#1. F#1 and lower sound fuller, where G#1 has a different, slightly duller structure (at the extreme of the dynamic spectrum, that is). I discussed this with my technician, and he suggested that the subtle timbral shift is produced by a difference in string construction: F#1 has double copper windings, whereas G#1 has a single layer. This is something that might be levelled out, but my technician suggested that I live with it at least for a while, as it might settle in, or I may adjust to it myself, being only subtle.


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