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Why Yamaha PSR-SX900 is $2200
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I was just browsing Yamaha's website checking few instruments but this caught my eyes:

PSR-SX900 -> $2200

From my point of view, PSR-SX900 worths under $1000. I personally wouldn't buy an arranger at all but I might be totally wrong. I have had PSR series for many years and it was never a good/capable keyboard. There are so many departments that I can talk about them.

When I compare PSR series with MODX or even the old MOXF, the quality of these boards is way above the PSR series. I understand that there are styles etc programmed in the arrangers but plenty of these styles are available in MOTIF series as patterns and honestly, they don't even sound good.

When I compare the voices, PSR SX-900 doesn't offer anything better than MODX.

They don't even have the Super Articulation 2 voices in Tyros and Genos and you don't even have access to the waverom samples. No proper sequencer and many more shortcomings.

What makes the PSR series so expensive?


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Hopefully you get the answers you're looking for here, but isn't this more of a keyboard/synth question rather than a digital piano topic? I imagine you'd get more bites on a synth forum like Keyboard Corner, rather than the smaller cross-section of keyboardists you might find here?


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I could ask this e.g. in Yamahasynth.com but obviously BadMister was going to either say the keyboard is designed by the arranger dept. or some other excuse or completely ignore it. Another forum to ask is PSRTutorial which obviously has hardcore orthodox/radical arranger users.

My main question is about Yamaha's pricing policy.


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Yamaha has probably sold more PSR keyboards than any of their other keyboards. They are not pianos, they are not organs, they are not guitars... they are arranger keyboards - the most used arranger keyboards in the world, and they hold their value better than most other keyboards. I am not a "one-man-band" performer myself but if I were, I would no doubt buy a Yamaha PSR.

I don't really understand why you feel Yamaha, Kawai, Toyota or Apple owe any of us an explanation about their pricing policy?

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Originally Posted by Abdol
I could ask this e.g. in Yamahasynth.com but obviously BadMister was going to either say the keyboard is designed by the arranger dept. or some other excuse or completely ignore it. Another forum to ask is PSRTutorial which obviously has hardcore orthodox/radical arranger users.

My main question is about Yamaha's pricing policy.

They usually stagger their pricing structures as the models increase in functionality/prestige. Therefore, if your top-of-the-range is £3,759.00 for the bundle, then the next one down being £1,755.00 with all the bundle of stuff, that seems reasonable from their POV.

Don't forget: Yamaha used to sell top-of-the-range Elecone's for £12,000 in the 1980's and 1990's. The R&D spend on the arranger keyboards and electones is quite a lot, because you're combining many functions into one unit and marketing the instrument for both professionals and amateurs. Many people buying these models are older and have a bit of disposable wealth. They want all that one-touch setup stuff.

We all know that with a PC and some software, you can do all the arranger stuff --- and much easier too---with a far more professional outcome. However, these arranger type instruments are OTT on price. Look at the CVP809 retailing at £7,659.00. You're paying at least another £3500 on top of the CLP range to get that arranger stuff.


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Re: Why Yamaha PSR-SX900 is $2200
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These still can't justify this price point. I guess that the arranger market is smaller than synth market. Only Yamaha and Korg are major manufacturers of mid/high end arrangers today. Roland sits at the 3rd place with much lower sales.

Yamaha's last great arranger was PSR-9000 Pro (released in 2000). It could fit 2 PLG boards! In 1998 Yamaha made EX5. Which is among its best synths ever made but underpowered. In 2001 Yamaha released the first MOTIF keyboard and in 2002 the first Tyros.

The most advanced and hardcore arranger keyboard manufacturer in early 2000 was Technics (Panasonic) and KN7000 was a very capable arranger at that time which was shut down by panasonic in I guess in 2001.

Before 2000 Korg also was making i30.

If I put all these information together, it seems after death of Technics and obviously a major competetor, they all ditched the advanced elementes sticking to simple sample playback.

I guess it's more because of the lack of competition rather than anything else.

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Originally Posted by Abdol
I guess it's more because of the lack of competition rather than anything else.

Next time you are in the US, take a look at what the postal service uses to deliver mail (I think you may use them in Canada as well). Grumann LLV class, 30+ year old design, last changed in the mid 90s.... Single supplier of course.


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In France, the PSR SX900 is roughly at the same price than the Korg PA1000.

Perhaps each arranger maker is looking at its direct concurrent and set the price at the same level...


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Originally Posted by Gombessa
Next time you are in the US, take a look at what the postal service uses to deliver mail (I think you may use them in Canada as well). Grumann LLV class, 30+ year old design, last changed in the mid 90s.... Single supplier of course.

Is it going to give a clue about the competition?
PA1000 from Korg has a more advanced instrument! It's still cheaply made and simple but it has aftertouch, DNC, Guitar mode, sequencer, access to waverom samples and some more features which are not present in SX-900.

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In France, the PSR SX900 is roughly at the same price than the Korg PA1000.

Perhaps each arranger maker is looking at its direct concurrent and set the price at the same level...

I believe this is the case. There is no competition in the arranger market. Roland has only 3 arrangers. Korg few, Yamaha ton of arrangers. Which explains why Yamaha is pricing it that way. Can't imagine PSR-SX900 worth a penny more than MODX.

If 2-3 companies dominate the market, then the competition is usually dead. Korg and Yamaha manufacture their boards to match eachother's features and add very little new features.


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These things are all over the place in Europe and Japan. Outdoor festivities, karaoke, and live music bars still are popular, so there is plenty of global demand for the PSR.

I don't see the same type of live music events in Canada or the US, so don't see the PSR there frequently.


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