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Firstly, he is not dressed the way she is dressed, so it was not "asked and answered." Secondly, the reason why I posed the question in the first place was to illustrate how a women can get away with borderline nudity in a formal setting precisely because she is a women. As I said earlier, were a man to dress in an equally revealing outfit for a formal concert, he would be ridiculed without hesitation. Why do we not do this with women? Because men are highly visual sexual creatures and sexual appeal is part of a woman's value, whether you like it or not, and it sells. Nobody wants to see a naked man play the piano, but half of the audience will be more than glad to see a naked woman play the piano. I am not a sexist for valuing modesty. Yes, Yuja should be allowed to dress however she wants within the law; I am an American who strongly believes in individual liberty after all, but that doesn't mean I have to agree with her choices.

What, the equivalence in your mind to a lady dressing in a short skirt is a dude dressing in a short skirt? LOL.

Why do you think the Terminator in the pic above is showing off the guns? To impress himself?

Asked and answered, indeed.


Suuuuure.... Sir, I bow to your superior understanding of the female mind. Get back to me on that once you meet an actual woman.

Pro tip: No-one wants to see a naked "dude" playing the piano, but a lot of women would get a kick out of watching the Terminator above playing half stripped.


I didn't call you one. But, what you are writing here arguably is, because you're using your own male background and prejudice to judge a woman's behaviour.


Suuuure... only they that they should "be ridiculed without hesitation", your words. Freedom of speech, right?

I'm a woman.

So? I don't know you from a box of rocks, no offense. I will make sure to address you accordingly going forward, but this is not a rebuttal of any of my points.

That's rather offensive actually.

Fine.

This only helps to illustrate my point. Those things appear equal on paper, but they are not the same thing in practice, because women and men are different and view each other differently. Women get away with wearing skirts because that's just part of being a woman. Men want to see it. There is though, in my opinion, a point where it simply becomes indecent. Not all of the skirts Wang wears are offensive to me, and some are. The one in my original post is in my opinion, over the line.

No idea, but the sexual dynamic between his guns and his female audience is most certainly not equivalent to the sexual dynamic between a hot woman in a skimpy dress and her male audience. You're just wrong if you think there's no difference.

If a bunch of women want to go to a designated establishment for the purposes of seeing some male entertainment, who am I to judge? We are talking about a formal occasion here which should adhere to traditions of basic decency and respect.

Thanks for the thoughtful and thought provoking response.

- I really did not mean offence. My point was, it's the Internet... You could be male, female, 15, 65, wearing a skimpy dress, or tan pants with sandals and white socks on. And it is for that reason that I refrain from characterisations - because I don't know you other than a few lines written in haste on the Internet.

- Point taken on the male/female approach, but I think you're painting all males with the David B "if I see an attractive female I want to f*** it" broad brush. At a base level maybe it's there -- BUT a lot of us have outgrown this base reaction for the most part and can celebrate a young attractive confident pianist for being a rockin' pianist regardless what she's wearing. And if she wants to put on a skimpy outfit and rock that piano, power to her! I say you go girl! And any Neanderthals who never outgrew 13 and cannot deal with it can stay in their moms basement. It's their freaking problem, not Yujia's.

It was also mentioned earlier that if someone wants to satisfy their base instincts they have the Internet. They don't have to wait for a pianist. And just as the ladies can choose a suitable establishment to get their rocks off with scantily clad Terminators, so can the blokes and they have far more choices.

You're entering a concert hall, better be able to deal with the unpredictable wardrobe choices of the soloist and celebrate the freaking music. If not, pound sand until you grow up and can handle a basic human interaction. It's that simple.

- There sure a a lot of things to be offended by. Children in one part of the world are dying of malnutrition while in another part of the world, good food is thrown away by the sh*t ton. I find that offensive. What someone chooses to wear is just way down on the list of priorities, not to mention, that person meant no offence to you or anyone else. They just put on an outfit they liked. Unless the outfit has in large print "Chopineto you suck", if you choose to be offended that is solely your choice.

OK Time to hit the bed, it's midnight in my part of the world

What point do threads like this serve other than to show us who shares our personal ideological alignments and who doesn't?

I wish this forum could be a safe haven from politics and the ideological divides that seem to be ripping the world apart.

I don't want to point fingers at either side, I'm just sad.

Yes, Dr. Rogers, I agree; this thread has brought out some unpleasantness that shouldn't be part of this forum. It's time to shut this down!

Regards,

This one has long since run its course.