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Welcome Back @ Bösendorfer
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New video put out by Bösendorfer

Towards the end, a hint about a new, Mid-Size VC Concert Grand, in the Works

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Very Interesting..... great video.


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Appropriately Viennese approach to the soundtrack.

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Well for myself who sometimes dislikes Beethoven, (yes weird 🤔 I know) this concerto is one of the greatest concertos ever written.I realise I state the obvious,but I am almost always in tears when I listen to this. With this Pandemic and all the pain it has caused and is causing, it is almost like a wonderful Hymn.
Thank you, the pianist, orchestra and the wonderful Bosendorfer all make it even more special !

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Such a great video!

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Originally Posted by Lady Bird
Well for myself who sometimes dislikes Beethoven, (yes weird 🤔 I know) this concerto is one of the greatest concertos ever written.I realise I state the obvious,but I am almost always in tears when I listen to this. With this Pandemic and all the pain it has caused and is causing, it is almost like a wonderful Hymn.
Thank you, the pianist, orchestra and the wonderful Bosendorfer all make it even more special !
I was commenting on the video of the Beethoven Concerto in G no 4 played by I think Wilhelm Kempf (! think) and the Vienna Philharmonic (I think) The pianist played the concerto I referred to.
(on a Bosendorfer)
The youtube video occurred after the factory video.

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Originally Posted by Lady Bird

Good Stuff - Thanks!

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That was great. Thanks for sharing!


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Originally Posted by Lucubrate
New video put out by Bösendorfer

Towards the end, a hint about a new, Mid-Size VC Concert Grand, in the Works

Welcome Back @ Bösendorfer

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... mid-sized, 5-section cast iron harp (means it's above model 214VC), so I guess 88-key model 225VC ...

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Originally Posted by Lady Bird

It is Wilhelm Backhaus, not Wilhelm Kempff. Definitely looks like Karl Boehm conducting. Backhaus did record the Beethoven Piano Concerti with Decca and the Vienna Philharmonic in the late 1950's with Hans Schmidt-Isserstedt conducting. Decca engineer Mike Mailes told me about his working with Karl Boehm and Backhaus when they recorded the Brahms Piano Concerto 2 with the Vienna Philharmonic in 1967, when Backhaus was 83, a recording that Mailes was very proud to engineer. Backhaus was to die two years later.

Backhaus was famous for his ability to transpose on the spot. When he came to the rehearsal to play the Grieg A minor concerto with an orchestra, he found the piano was a semitone flat. Rather than cancel the rehearsal, he played the concerto in Bb minor. Later that day the piano was brought up to the correct pitch and he played it in A minor for the performance.

Kempff has a great recording of the complete set of Beethoven piano concerti with Ferdinand Leitner conducting the Berlin Philharmonic.

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Bösendorfer is renewing their line-up with their VC models - exciting times. Thanks for the video-link, I had missed out on this one.

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I wonder if they shall try this transformation with their vertical models. (Same with the Yamaha and their SX black magic, actually.)

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Glad to see that the managing director for Boesendorfer is a woman. When we toured the factory at Wiener Neustadt in 1985, they made a point of telling us that they liked women working in the factory because they were more careful than the men, and they were paid less!


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The introduction of the new VC model is very exciting. I think this is probably the most creative period in Bösendorfer's recent history. The first five years under Sabine Grubmüller's leadership has been fascinating. I think we're in a new golden age. Long may it last.

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Just re-watched the Video

Pretty Cool,... with a Great teaser at the End


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I'm going to go out on a limb and say I've just played the best piano I've ever encountered.We air freighted a new Bosendorfer 214VC from Vienna,unboxed it and the tuning is magic.The action melts under your fingers as if it wants to play itself.Tone is rich and clear...I could go on!!


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I auditioned a 214VC at My dealer

It was absolutely Wonderful - I felt confident it was going to be My next piano

Then I played the 280VC,... & it became My next piano


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Oh! I just commented on the wrong thread; (Yuja Chang plays a Bosendorfer) how did I do that? Sorry guys . . .


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As a follow-up to astrotoy's comment, if women are more careful than men (and by implication are better employees than men), shouldn't they be paid more? That 1985 quotation says it all about sexism, as to content (women are paid less), as to quality (they are more careful), and as to sexism itself (it's funny and something of which to take advantage, not to remedy).

Bosendorfers are fabulous pianos, but the world has a long way to go. It's great that the company is now headed by a woman, although I wonder whether she has any real power in the company now that it's a subsidiary. It would be worth knowing if bias has been eliminated from the pay scale since 1985.

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