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What a crazy idea. You've really lost it this time. This is clearly a non-PW compliant approach. I'm thinking maybe you should be banned.

So come along Doug. You KNOW how it's done on PW...

Pass judgment NOW. You don't need experience or any evidence to support whatever statements you might wish to make about these new pianos. Just pontificate now. Make baseless assumptions. Do it now. Condemn. Ridicule the maker. Act NOW to poison everyone's mind. Time is running out. Plunge the knife in right up to the hilt. It's no fun otherwise.

Problem with that is that I liked the CLP685 a lot.
So unless they ruin it, the only complaint will be: is the upgrade really worth it?!
I'm getting right behind the Yamaha now, so that I can stab it in the back later when it disappoints me like the Roland LX708 did (Roland in the sin bin).

Tut tut tut. Sorry, but such a rational approach will not go down well here. Why wait? - just stab it in the back (and front, top, bottom and sides) now.

If I didn’t know you any better, I’d say you’re being sarcastic; am I right in this observation?

If you’re not being sarcastic, then I fully agree with you: stab them MOFO’s right where it hurts!



P.S.

And now I take cover!

So I have to ask now does the new CLP series come with the hammer and nail or is only in the smart app LOL

Can't wait to check out the "Grand Expression" thing. Bored with tri-sensor - need something new.

Greg

Opinions are opinions. I for myself can live with that. No need to be salty because other people like things that i don't like.

A don't mind being 'Asalted' for shits and giggles lol

You know what they say: you have to get right behind someone in order to stab them in the back
fyi

Or to quote Joni Mitchell...
I've looked at Yamaha's from both sides now
From up and down, and still somehow
It's Binuaral illusions I recall
I really don't know 'the number of velocity levels' at all

lol, all in jest, I of course expect the CLP785 to be annoyingly good without being ground breaking i.e., compared to the competition, that is, until some competitor makes a leap forward in amplification quality and in the sample clarity (to match the binaural sampling technology).

Still, I think there will be room for improvement in the expressiveness, the warmth of the sample tone, and the action. Can't wait to try the CLP785 and the Kawai CA99/Novus5/10.

I didn't understand a word they were saying; it was all in Japanese! Thank god it was subtitled!

Incidentally, the little we actually heard of the piano sound did not entice me one bit. It sounded tinny and toyish.

Couldn't understand a word The only person on this forum that I think might know Japanese is James but he will deceive us!

I don't know about the sound itself but resonances sound pretty good.

I speak a little Chinese. I think she said that the new 700-series has new and improved chrome trim, shoulder pads, whitewall tires, and a pair of his-and-her cup holders.

What about the Japanese massage. I'm not buying if that isn't included LOL

I just spoke this afternoon to Rich Galassini at Cunningham Pianos. The differences between the old CLP685 and the new CLP785 are very modest. The new model has a touchscreen control panel. The new model also has four fortepiano samples - "Scarlatti", "Mozart", "Beethoven" and "Chopin". Finally, the Yamaha CFX and Bosendorfer Imperial sounds on the new model have binaural headphone sampling; the old model had binaural sampling on just the CFX sound.

Other than that, the CLP685 and CLP785 are pretty much identical; no changes at all to the action, pedals and sound system. Some of the less expensive CLP-600 models have been discontinued and not replaced by CLP-700 models. Some of the actions in the less-expensive CLP-700 models have been changed from their CLP-600 counterparts.

As I said earlier, the changes between the two series are very modest. Which is just as well, since I own a CLP685!