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Steinway Artist playing a Boesendorfer
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gYqYxh6XsP8

Of course, before she was a Steinway artist.


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Thank you for sharing the video.

This brings up an interesting point. While Yuja Wang was studying at Curtis Institute she played several public recitals in the region (unrelated to Curtis). She chose Bōsendorfer pianos from Cunningham Piano Company several times and once, over dinner after one of those recitals, commented to me, “That piano was AWESOME!”

So if she enjoyed these pianos so much, why become a Steinway artist? Well, she studied with Gary Graffman, a dyed in the wool Steinway artist. His influence could have made a difference. But more importantly, becoming an affiliated musician early in your career has more to do with accessibility. Bösendorfer does not have the ability to supply free pianos to venues or low cost rentals like Steinway does. They simply do not have the inventory.

For a young artist being a Steinway Artist is a good business decision.

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Very impressive

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By the way, Haochen Zhang used Bösendorfer pianos for more than one independent recital while he attended Curtis as well. And Lang Lang used a Mason & Hamlin concert grand in his very first public recital in Philadelphia.

Lang Lang did not choose the piano, the venue did, but he enjoyed it and complimented it well. He was young at the time and admitted he had only played Pearl River, Yamaha, and a Steinway and really knew very little about any other pianos. (We did not ask him what piano he owned in China, but it was not a Steinway).

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Originally Posted by Rich Galassini
(We did not ask him what piano he owned in China, but it was not a Steinway).

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MD55nUUKRPg

Is that him at home? That looks like a Steinway, I assumed that was his own piano and his home. Maybe you were talking to him before that video was made.

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Originally Posted by trigalg693

LOL his hystrionics are better than the music itself. He scored a point here for making me watch something I otherwise would have turned off after 1 sec :-)


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Nice - I have to admit, though, that after that 'other discussion' I was also checking on her feet (well, whatever...) and noticed flat shoes, but where was the other foot? Has she changed her posture? Never mind, lovely playing anyway!
Also liked the Lang Lang video - gives an interesting insight to the mind of the 'younger generation' of pianists, perhaps? I notice, for example, that the twosetviolin pair on youtube also discuss computer games. Horowitz didn't play computer games - well, at least, I don't think he did (was Space Invaders around during his time?) It's a different world from the one I'm used to (shakes grey head, feels old).


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I doubt I'll ever have access to a decent well regulated Steinway or Bösendorfer grand. The only thing I have to judge on is the sample based virtual pianos. I have two different Bösendorfers and one Steinway, though I did have a second Steinway for a time. So my experience is purely based on the digital versions of these pianos.

I feel I've come to the conclusion I'm more a Bösendorfer fan than I am Steinway. Don't get me wrong if someone offered me a free Steinway that I couldn't swap for a Bösendorfer and a house to fit it in, I would not hesitate a second in saying yes.

There is something about the depth, richness of the sound of the Bösendorfer that works for me. If I lived in a magical world where I could choose freely between these two, I think it would be the Bösendorfer.

As to Mason and Hamlin, every time I have heard a recording of one I've loved the sound, some of the submissions to ABF have used a Mason and Hamlin.

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Originally Posted by trigalg693
Originally Posted by Rich Galassini
(We did not ask him what piano he owned in China, but it was not a Steinway).

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MD55nUUKRPg

Is that him at home? That looks like a Steinway, I assumed that was his own piano and his home. Maybe you were talking to him before that video was made.

I met him at his very first public performance in Philadelphia. He was 15, (maybe?) and it was 1996 (maybe?) and he had newly arrived to Philadelphia. His parents were there and joined us for the luncheon after the recital. He was articulate, but quiet and very respectful to his parents.


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Originally Posted by Rich Galassini
By the way, Haochen Zhang used Bösendorfer pianos for more than one independent recital while he attended Curtis as well. And Lang Lang used a Mason & Hamlin concert grand in his very first public recital in Philadelphia.

Lang Lang did not choose the piano, the venue did, but he enjoyed it and complimented it well. He was young at the time and admitted he had only played Pearl River, Yamaha, and a Steinway and really knew very little about any other pianos. (We did not ask him what piano he owned in China, but it was not a Steinway).

My 2 cents,
Presumably Curtis has been stitched up pretty well by Steinway? Or does the network of patrons and private residences the students wind up in sort of soften that to a degree?

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Originally Posted by trigalg693

LOL his hystrionics are better than the music itself. He scored a point here for making me watch something I otherwise would have turned off after 1 sec :-)

Yes, really interesting video. I've seen countless videos of him performing, but this definitely showed a different side of his personality! I also watched a master class video suggested by youTube (Lang Lang and Thomas Chan), and that was interesting too. These definitely fleshed his personality out quite a bit for me!


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I know people who have studied at Juilliard, Curtis, and Peabody. In one of those colleges, all the "good" pianos were Steinways. There were some others but they didn't get much attention.

Most of the students had never played a Fazioli, let alone a Bechstein or Bösendorfer. They probably hadn't even heard of Sauter or Steingraeber. There were some Yamahas and Kawais in the practice rooms, and I assume they weren't Shigeru or CFXs/CFIIIs.

This was a good few years ago, so things might have changed in the last decade or so.

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The Yuja Wang video was taken at a long recital she did in Beijing (years before Curtis) when she was 11 or 12. There is one of her playing the first movement of the Waldstein (not on a Boesie) in China when she was 8! I couldn't find it to post. I saw an interview of Graffman talking about teaching at Curtis. At some point he talks about prodigies and that he advised both Lang Lang and Yuja Wang not to enter contests.


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Originally Posted by johnstaf
I know people who have studied at Juilliard, Curtis, and Peabody. In one of those colleges, all the "good" pianos were Steinways. There were some others but they didn't get much attention.

Most of the students had never played a Fazioli, let alone a Bechstein or Bösendorfer. They probably hadn't even heard of Sauter or Steingraeber. There were some Yamahas and Kawais in the practice rooms, and I assume they weren't Shigeru or CFXs/CFIIIs.

This was a good few years ago, so things might have changed in the last decade or so.

They have changed, at least at Juilliard. Over the past few years they have bought several pianos by Fazioli and Bösendorfer.


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Exactly, since Bösendorfer has never produced more than 300 pianos per year. They do have a very special room in their facility to store pianos for pianists who travel the world. They instruct Bösendorfer where they want their piano sent next, with a technician and all. It must be nice. Steve


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