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Hi everybody!

Presently I'm working at Suite bergamasque by Claude Debussy. Let me present for now the opening part:

https://youtu.be/jWgiR3I37AI

One day I wanna play a program which confronts the Suite bergamasque with selected piano pieces from op. 116-119 by Johannes Brahms. Both wrote their music in the 90ties of the 19th century, so about at the same time – but what a difference! Two musical universes, two generations meeting in one program! One day I'll play it cool

Thank you for listening and maybe even commenting!

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The Prelude is my favourite movement from the Suite Bergamasque and I think you did a fine job with this, Tony (or is it Felix). I'm used to hearing it played slightly faster but liked your tempo - made the music very contemplative. On the whole I thought it was a really well judged performance.

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Hi psyche23, and thanks a lot for your very early and very positive reaction! Yes, actually it's Felix, Tony is just my nickname for this forum smile

Discovering the contemplative side of this wonderful piece – that was exactly my intention, and I'm glad you could recognise and appreciate it cool

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Originally Posted by Tony007
Discovering the contemplative side of this wonderful piece – that was exactly my intention, and I'm glad you could recognise and appreciate it cool
I noticed the same thing as psyche23 did about your tempo. And when I went to YouTube the timings for this pieces were all over the place from 3:36 for Gieseking to some performances slower than yours. I had mostly heard it faster than how you played it but also greatly enjoyed hearing it at a somewhat slower tempo. You changed it from a somewhat brilliant opening to a more contemplative one, and it was very enjoyable to hear it this way.

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Originally Posted by pianoloverus
I had mostly heard it faster than how you played it but also greatly enjoyed hearing it at a somewhat slower tempo. You changed it from a somewhat brilliant opening to a more contemplative one, and it was very enjoyable to hear it this way.

Thank you, pianoloverus! Maybe Debussy's tempo indication gives us a hint? He wrote Moderato (Tempo rubato), so it's not meant to be a fast piece, and furthermore some flexibility is required. There is a beautiful French word for flexibility: souplesse smile Yes, after the brilliant opening, a new, much more "private" mood shows up from bar 20, and only from bar 44 Debussy gently leads us back to the initial mood which triumphantly re-enters in bar 66. That's how I see it, and I'm glad I could convince you cool

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That's a really interesting way of looking at the piece as a whole Felix, it's definitely caused me to rethink my approach to learning this (which I've been encouraged to do so by your performance). Can I ask what fingerings you used for bars 11 and 13 (with the semiquaver thirds). I'm finding those a bit of a struggle to play smoothly and with both hands in sync at anything other than a really pedestrian tempo. Any tips?

Anyway, assuming you record them I look forward to hearing the other parts in the future!

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Originally Posted by psyche23
Can I ask what fingerings you used for bars 11 and 13 (with the semiquaver thirds). I'm finding those a bit of a struggle to play smoothly and with both hands in sync at anything other than a really pedestrian tempo.

These bars are tricky, indeed smile

Since I don't know how to add a photo without URL to a comment, I made a mini movie (my shortest ever), where you can see all my fingerings. The movie is over after a few seconds, but you can stop it and watch the picture as long as you want, maybe even take a screenshot.

https://youtu.be/OCh7XbruzcQ

Of course this is just MY solution, adapted to the needs of MY hands. Maybe you'll need another solution, since hands can be so different? Anyway: I wish you lots of pleasure with this wonderful piece, and yes: I'm learning also the other parts of the Suite, one day I'll be able to present them, but I have to ask for patience smile Presently I'm very busy with Beethoven's violin sonatas, my chamber music partner wants to play them all cool

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That's great Felix - thank you very much.

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Hi, Tony007! As others have indicated, just an excellent performance of this piece. I particularly noted the attention to your shaping of the melodic line throughout; it is much needed to provide a connective strand to the overall narrative, which I personally find to be too episodic otherwise. I agree that the character of the Prelude is introverted, but with a warm cast, and so I don't aim for a grand flourish to introduce the piece in spite of that implication -- it's really more happy than glorious. You were very sensitive throughout to the emotional character of the Prelude, and that for me is its most attractive feature. Thanks for sharing this!

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Hi Tim Adrianson! I'm glad you like the way how I play this piece! And I also enjoyed very much reading your insightful words about the character of this music. "More happy than glorious" – exactly! I always imagined some sunny and peaceful Mediterranean scenery in order to get into the right mood for the opening part. No glory, just joy of life smile

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A truly excellent performance. I also am accustomed to hearing the Prelude played slightly faster, but after following the score and noticing the initial tempo marking Moderato (Tempo Rubato) I think you've hit the nail on the head. Like Tim, I appreciated your sensitive shaping of the melodic line throughout. I felt you were in total control of your interpretation from start to finish. Bravo !!

An early Debussy/late Brahms program is an excellent idea. In the meantime it seems you have a full plate with ALL of the Beethoven violin sonatas. grin


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Thank you, Carey, for appreciating my recording that much! And yes, you are right:The ten violin sonatas by Beethoven are a very big challenge, right now I'm learning the "Kreutzer" sonata from scratch – it's such an overwhelming piece cool But continuing with my solo projects is important as well, it's sort of "counterpoint" grin I try every day to find the right balance....


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