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Aren't there any 88-key synth action controllers? #2999257 07/05/20 09:50 PM
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OP bill5 Full Member B Joined: Jul 2013 Posts: 225	I can't find any.

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Re: Aren't there any 88-key synth action controllers? bill5 #2999259 07/05/20 10:12 PM
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joemama42O Full Member J Joined: Apr 2020 Posts: 326 Chandler, Arizona	YPG-535 lol. well... https://www.google.com/search?q=semi+weighted+88&sxsrf=ALeKk00EMQVkHIYyMc8KHWkZ9KNLRVIMdQ:1594005126442&source=lnms&tbm=shop&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwiPotPq07fqAhW0Mn0KHXFnAQsQ_AUoAXoECA4QAw&biw=1536&bih=722 Google has a whole entire section for this. Finally bought the P515

Re: Aren't there any 88-key synth action controllers? bill5 #2999260 07/05/20 10:15 PM
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OP bill5 Full Member B Joined: Jul 2013 Posts: 225	? Semi-weighted is not synth action

Re: Aren't there any 88-key synth action controllers? bill5 #2999261 07/05/20 10:19 PM
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joemama42O Full Member J Joined: Apr 2020 Posts: 326 Chandler, Arizona	Originally Posted by bill5 ? Semi-weighted is not synth action It's close, I will try to find synth action though. Finally bought the P515

Re: Aren't there any 88-key synth action controllers? bill5 #2999262 07/05/20 10:24 PM
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joemama42O Full Member J Joined: Apr 2020 Posts: 326 Chandler, Arizona	I literally cannot find one. There probably is some though! Finally bought the P515

Re: Aren't there any 88-key synth action controllers? bill5 #2999267 07/05/20 11:00 PM
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OP bill5 Full Member B Joined: Jul 2013 Posts: 225	Thanks for looking! I doubt it at this point...... Do you (or anyone) have a suggestion for a "semi-weighted" which is very close to synth action?

Re: Aren't there any 88-key synth action controllers? bill5 #2999270 07/05/20 11:17 PM
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Abdol 500 Post Club Member A Joined: Apr 2019 Posts: 982 Canada	76 keys will take care of what you need. I don’t think you would ever need the 8th octave. You will most likely Can play 99.9% of songs you want with only 76 keys. Also m audio key station mkII has the synth action keys. Last edited by Abdol; 07/05/20 11:19 PM. Kawai MP7SE, Yamaha MOTF XF6, Yamaha WX5, Yamaha Pacifica 112v

Re: Aren't there any 88-key synth action controllers? Abdol #2999272 07/05/20 11:29 PM
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OP bill5 Full Member B Joined: Jul 2013 Posts: 225	Originally Posted by Abdol 76 keys will take care of what you need. I don’t think you would ever need the 8th octave. You will most likely Can play 99.9% of songs you want with only 76 keys. I wouldn't go quite that far, but would consider. Do you know of any 76-key synth action controllers? Really 76 keys is rare in general. Quote Also m audio key station mkII has the synth action keys. Nope, semi-weighted. Thanks though!

Re: Aren't there any 88-key synth action controllers? bill5 #2999274 07/05/20 11:42 PM
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Kawai James Yikes! 10000 Post Club Member Joined: Sep 2007 Posts: 17,134 Hamamatsu, Japan	It's not really a synth action, nor is it a controller, however it does have 88 keys: https://www.roland.com/global/products/gopiano_go-88p/ James x Employed by Kawai Japan, however the opinions I express are my own. Nord Electro 3 & occasional rare groove player.

Re: Aren't there any 88-key synth action controllers? bill5 #2999275 07/05/20 11:43 PM
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Bachus 500 Post Club Member Joined: Apr 2015 Posts: 588	the nektar 88 key has semi weighted action.. Its a great keybed https://nektartech.com/impact-lx88-controller-keyboard/ Also you could decide to use a kronos LS Its a great masterkeyboard too (and a great workstatio) But expensive And then ther is the studiologic, numa compact x2 Semi weighted action and affordable.. comes packed with sounds Its 88 keys.. and ha smaster keyboard functions, tough much less then the kronos Admin of : www.keyszone.boards.net

Re: Aren't there any 88-key synth action controllers? bill5 #2999277 07/05/20 11:47 PM
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Nip Full Member N Joined: May 2019 Posts: 246 Sweden	Nobody call it synth action - they all say semiweighted AFAIK, pretending the sought after weighted keys is not that far away. I had M-Audio Axiom, a joke they call that semiweighted. Organs though are synth action, but have not seen any of those with more than 61 keys, sometimes 2 x 61 keys or 2 x 49 keys. Double manual like organ seems more usable than one 88 key keybed, and allow split for various synths and midi gear or similar. Look at Nord C1 or C2 I think they are called, as well as Hammond and of course synths to use as master keyboard, which I do. Roland usually have good keybeds overall. Kawai MP7SE - Hammond XK3c - Synthesizers

Re: Aren't there any 88-key synth action controllers? bill5 #2999278 07/05/20 11:47 PM
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OP bill5 Full Member B Joined: Jul 2013 Posts: 225	I appreciate the replies, but semi-weighted is not synth action folks!

Re: Aren't there any 88-key synth action controllers? bill5 #2999280 07/05/20 11:53 PM
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Nip Full Member N Joined: May 2019 Posts: 246 Sweden	Originally Posted by bill5 I appreciate the replies, but semi-weighted is not synth action folks! Yes, they are - they just changed naming. It's a joke what they call semiweighted. Check the feel of anything you find in a music store - and go by that instead. It's not a sales point to call anything synth action - but call it semiweighted give pretence it can be used for piano too and is a sales point. Kawai MP7SE - Hammond XK3c - Synthesizers

Re: Aren't there any 88-key synth action controllers? bill5 #2999287 07/06/20 12:12 AM
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Otavio Full Member O Joined: Feb 2020 Posts: 314	Arturia Essential 88 Semi weighted(more toward to synth action) with a lot of controls and a great bundled software. https://www.arturia.com/products/hybrid-synths/keylab-essential-88/overview

Re: Aren't there any 88-key synth action controllers? bill5 #2999298 07/06/20 01:08 AM
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Charles Cohen 6000 Post Club Member C Joined: Dec 2012 Posts: 6,074 Richmond, BC, Canada	FWIW -- When I was hunting keyboards, I tried quite a few "semi-weighted" actions -- . . . they felt like "synth action" to me. The keys had no inertia. Things may have changed, or my fingers may be insensitive. . Charles --------------------------- PX-350 / microKorg XL+ / Pianoteq

Re: Aren't there any 88-key synth action controllers? bill5 #2999326 07/06/20 04:08 AM
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clothearednincompo 2000 Post Club Member C Joined: Nov 2016 Posts: 2,336 Finland	A few (including "half" and "semi" weighted): https://www.thomann.de/gb/arturia_keylab_essential_88.htm https://www.thomann.de/gb/icon_ikeyboard_8x.htm https://www.thomann.de/gb/nektar_impact_lx88.htm https://www.thomann.de/gb/midiplus_x_8_ii.htm https://www.thomann.de/gb/nektar_impact_gxp88.htm https://www.thomann.de/gb/swissonic_controlkey_88.htm

Re: Aren't there any 88-key synth action controllers? bill5 #2999331 07/06/20 04:50 AM
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clothearednincompo 2000 Post Club Member C Joined: Nov 2016 Posts: 2,336 Finland	Stage pianos with no hammer action (light or semi weighted): https://www.thomann.de/gb/korg_b2n.htm https://www.thomann.de/gb/studiologic_numa_compact_2.htm https://www.thomann.de/gb/studiologic_numa_compact_2x.htm https://www.thomann.de/gb/thomann_sp_320.htm https://www.thomann.de/gb/midiplus_stage_88.htm

Re: Aren't there any 88-key synth action controllers? bill5 #2999343 07/06/20 05:40 AM
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Skyscrapersax 500 Post Club Member S Joined: Oct 2014 Posts: 532 Detroit NJ / NYC, La La Land	My question is: are there any 88 key controllers WITH hammer weighted keys that are not heavy? Like 15 to 25 pounds? Probably impossible. I have the Numa Compact 2x, and it's great, but synth action more or less, no inertia to the keys although very "playable." I have an older Nektar 61 key that is also great, but again, not weighted. Selmer Mark VI Tenor (‘73) & Alto Sax (‘57), Yamaha YSS-62 Soprano Sax (‘87), Conn Naked Lady Baritone Sax (‘52), Conn New Wonder Tenor & Alto Sax (‘24), Yamaha WX5 Wind Synth (‘13), Kawai MP11 & ES-110, Numa Compact 2x, Casio PX5S, Roland VR-09, Hammond E-112 (‘69).

Re: Aren't there any 88-key synth action controllers? bill5 #2999355 07/06/20 06:43 AM
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clothearednincompo 2000 Post Club Member C Joined: Nov 2016 Posts: 2,336 Finland	These hammer action controllers are ~29...30 pounds: https://www.thomann.de/gb/studiologic_numa_stage.htm https://www.thomann.de/gb/native_instruments_komplete_kontrol_s88_mk2.htm https://www.thomann.de/gb/studiologic_sl88_studio.htm It might be hard to make it lighter(?) Although a Casio CDP-S100 weighs 23 pounds. They only specify a "package weight" of 19.6 pounds (8.9 kg) for this low quality portable piano: https://www.verkkokauppa.com/fi/product/6880/mktrk/Kisai-DP-88-digitaalipiano/ But the weight of the cardboard is probably insignificant. So, even a crappy one will be around 20 pounds. And maybe the speakers are not that heavy, but they could be taken out, I suppose and the device would still work as a controller.

Re: Aren't there any 88-key synth action controllers? bill5 #2999359 07/06/20 06:44 AM
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EVC2017 1000 Post Club Member E Joined: Aug 2017 Posts: 1,074 Sao Paul, Brazil	Quote My question is: are there any 88 key controllers WITH hammer weighted keys that are not heavy? Like 15 to 25 pounds? Probably impossible. Casio PX-5S? Not exactly a controller but I see it used as such by several folks in another forum. Last edited by EVC2017; 07/06/20 06:48 AM. Kawai ES8, Roland RD2000, Yamaha AG06 mixer, Presonus Eris E5 monitors, Sennheiser HD598SR phones.