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Aren't there any 88-key synth action controllers?
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I can't find any. frown

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YPG-535 lol. well...
https://www.google.com/search?q=semi+weighted+88&sxsrf=ALeKk00EMQVkHIYyMc8KHWkZ9KNLRVIMdQ:1594005126442&source=lnms&tbm=shop&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwiPotPq07fqAhW0Mn0KHXFnAQsQ_AUoAXoECA4QAw&biw=1536&bih=722
Google has a whole entire section for this.


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? Semi-weighted is not synth action

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Originally Posted by bill5
? Semi-weighted is not synth action

It's close, I will try to find synth action though.


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I literally cannot find one. There probably is some though!


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Thanks for looking! I doubt it at this point......

Do you (or anyone) have a suggestion for a "semi-weighted" which is very close to synth action?

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76 keys will take care of what you need. I don’t think you would ever need the 8th octave. You will most likely Can play 99.9% of songs you want with only 76 keys.

Also m audio key station mkII has the synth action keys.

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Originally Posted by Abdol
76 keys will take care of what you need. I don’t think you would ever need the 8th octave. You will most likely Can play 99.9% of songs you want with only 76 keys.
I wouldn't go quite that far, but would consider. Do you know of any 76-key synth action controllers? Really 76 keys is rare in general.

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Also m audio key station mkII has the synth action keys.
Nope, semi-weighted. Thanks though!

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It's not really a synth action, nor is it a controller, however it does have 88 keys:

https://www.roland.com/global/products/gopiano_go-88p/

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the nektar 88 key has semi weighted action..
Its a great keybed

https://nektartech.com/impact-lx88-controller-keyboard/

Also you could decide to use a kronos LS
Its a great masterkeyboard too (and a great workstatio)
But expensive

And then ther is the studiologic, numa compact x2
Semi weighted action and affordable.. comes packed with sounds
Its 88 keys.. and ha smaster keyboard functions, tough much less then the kronos

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Nobody call it synth action - they all say semiweighted AFAIK, pretending the sought after weighted keys is not that far away. I had M-Audio Axiom, a joke they call that semiweighted.

Organs though are synth action, but have not seen any of those with more than 61 keys, sometimes 2 x 61 keys or 2 x 49 keys.

Double manual like organ seems more usable than one 88 key keybed, and allow split for various synths and midi gear or similar.

Look at Nord C1 or C2 I think they are called, as well as Hammond and of course synths to use as master keyboard, which I do. Roland usually have good keybeds overall.


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I appreciate the replies, but semi-weighted is not synth action folks!

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Originally Posted by bill5
I appreciate the replies, but semi-weighted is not synth action folks!
Yes, they are - they just changed naming. It's a joke what they call semiweighted.

Check the feel of anything you find in a music store - and go by that instead.

It's not a sales point to call anything synth action - but call it semiweighted give pretence it can be used for piano too and is a sales point.


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Arturia Essential 88
Semi weighted(more toward to synth action) with a lot of controls and a great bundled software.

https://www.arturia.com/products/hybrid-synths/keylab-essential-88/overview

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FWIW --

When I was hunting keyboards, I tried quite a few "semi-weighted" actions --

. . . they felt like "synth action" to me.

The keys had no inertia.

Things may have changed, or my fingers may be insensitive.


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My question is: are there any 88 key controllers WITH hammer weighted keys that are not heavy? Like 15 to 25 pounds? Probably impossible.

I have the Numa Compact 2x, and it's great, but synth action more or less, no inertia to the keys although very "playable."

I have an older Nektar 61 key that is also great, but again, not weighted.


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These hammer action controllers are ~29...30 pounds:
https://www.thomann.de/gb/studiologic_numa_stage.htm
https://www.thomann.de/gb/native_instruments_komplete_kontrol_s88_mk2.htm
https://www.thomann.de/gb/studiologic_sl88_studio.htm

It might be hard to make it lighter(?)

Although a Casio CDP-S100 weighs 23 pounds.

They only specify a "package weight" of 19.6 pounds (8.9 kg) for this low quality portable piano: https://www.verkkokauppa.com/fi/product/6880/mktrk/Kisai-DP-88-digitaalipiano/

But the weight of the cardboard is probably insignificant.

So, even a crappy one will be around 20 pounds. And maybe the speakers are not that heavy, but they could be taken out, I suppose and the device would still work as a controller.

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My question is: are there any 88 key controllers WITH hammer weighted keys that are not heavy? Like 15 to 25 pounds? Probably impossible.

Casio PX-5S? Not exactly a controller but I see it used as such by several folks in another forum.

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