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Using Pianoteq demo.
#2998633 07/04/20 11:33 AM
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I am trying to use Pianoteq demo on my Casio CDP220rusing an old NAD amp and 2 external speakers with my laptop and Audiobox interface.A geek friend came and connected it up as folllows- A cable with 2 6.3 plugs from the front of the Audiobox to the Aux. jacks on the amp. A cable with 2 6.3 plugs from the back of the interface to the headphone jack of the piano and a USB cable from interface to piano. He typically, for a geek, never explained what he was doing just hooked it up, and as I'm an ignorant Senior , I do not understand what he did. It records but not via Pianoteq, as the disabled notes still sound. Can someone one the forum explain how to hook up correctly using the amp and secondly without the amp in case I don't like the way it sounds through the amp.

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Backing up one step ... I assume that you're able to play Pianoteq?
So your piano's MIDI out jack is connected to the MIDI in on the Audiobox using a MIDI cable?
Or, alternatively, your piano's USB-to-host jack is connected to the PC using a USB cable?

With the additional cabling installed by your friend ... you're recording the piano's sound, not Pianoteq sound ... just as you suspected.
In short, that cabling feeds the piano's audio signal to the Audiobox.
The latter converts that signal to digital and feeds it to the PC over the USB cable.

You don't need that to record the Pianoteq sound because Pianoteq has a built-in recorder.

Refer to the Pianoteq manual ... in the section "record and save your performance".
In short, you push the record button to record, and press stop when done.
Then in the File menu you can save the performance to an audio file. Simple.

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The first thing I would do would be to unhook everything that is already hooked up.

You have to get the digital piano attached to the computer VIA a midi connection .... that will be a USB A/B cable or a MIDI cable.

Here is a diagram which gives you alternative ways of hooking things up.


https://www.modartt.com/hookup

Once you have accomplished that and you can push down a key on the piano and see movement on the keys on the computer .... you are ready for the next step.

Come back when that has been accomplished.


Good Luck

Last edited by dmd; 07/04/20 01:15 PM.

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For what you want:

. . play on the Casio keyboard,

. . get sound from Pianoteq, running on the computer,
. . into the amplifier --

you _should not_ have any cables from the Casio's headphone output running to the computer, or to the amplifier.

So pull those out first, and see what happens.

You haven't said what (if anything) you see in the Pianoteq window on the computer, when you play on the Casio.

. . . If the Pianoteq keyboard doesn't show any activity,

. . . . . either the Casio MIDI signals aren't getting to
. . . . . the computer,

. . . .. or Pianoteq isn't configured correctly, to respond
. . . . to them.

Somewhere in the menu settings of the Casio, you'll find a setting for "Local Control":

. . . It should be set to "OFF".

That "OFF" de-couples the Casio's own sound generator from the Casio's keyboard -- no Casio-generated sounds will come out of its loudspeakers or headphone jacks.

This is not rocket science. Signals (of various types, some analog, some digital) flow through wires. Get clear about what signals flow through which wires, in what direction, and you'll be able to figure it out.

"Old age" does not exempt you from learning new stuff.<g>


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Count on Charles to get right to the point ... with complete accuracy. As usual.

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Thanks guys, I think I am slowly getting there.Mac you were right ,I was getting my piano sound.dmd , I did what you suggested and pulled all the cables out, and then tried what Charles suggested.Point taken about never being too old , but my background is purely mechanical and to me this stuff is far more complicated than rocket science. Finally Charles, I can't find out how to disable my piano, could I not just turn piano volume right down and use the amp volume control?

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Originally Posted by Jack Gately
. . . . Finally Charles, I can't find out how to disable my piano, could I not just turn piano volume right down and use the amp volume control?

Yes, you could do that. Or you could plug something into the "Phones" jack, which would mute the loudspeakers.

I can't find a CDP-220R manual on the Casio website. I'm pretty sure that, if you read the fine print in yours (if you have it), you'll find a "Local Control" option.

Ahh -- it's on page E-66 -- under "Function 12 - MIDI settings" --

https://www.manualslib.com/manual/26114/Casio-Cdp-220r.html?page=68#manual


The manual says you should do things in this order:

. . . Turn off CDP-220R;

. . . Turn off computer;

. . . Turn on computer;

. . . Connect USB cable from computer to CDP-220R;

. .. Turn on CDP-220R;

. . . Start Pianoteq.

Once the proper drivers are loaded into the computer (it should do that automagically), I don't think the sequence should matter.

As a check on progress:

. . . Is Pianoteq's on-screen keyboard responding to your playing on the CDP-220R ?


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Originally Posted by Jack Gately
Thanks guys, I think I am slowly getting there.Mac you were right ,I was getting my piano sound.dmd , I did what you suggested and pulled all the cables out, and then tried what Charles suggested.

Bottom line .... when you press keys on your piano, do you see keys moving on computer screen (Pianoteq) ?

That is step 1.


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Thanks to Charles I have been able to disable the piano sound.So I was able to go into Pianoteq play and record. I knew I was recording correctly because the disabled notes were not sounding but because I was using the computer sound volume was very low. When I connected the amp there was no difference in volume level. So I must be hooking the amp up incorrectly.As mentioned in first post cable goes from back of interface to amp auxiliary. The other cable goes from front of interface to a mini stereo jack and if I plug this into phones/output it makes no difference.There is another what looks like a mini jack marked audio in. Should I maybe try plugging into that jack?


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