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@EVC2017. Yes I am victim of a « false friend » an english term which ressemble an other French word with another meaning.

Join the club. ROFL I often see weird, even funny phrases on TV caused by those.

Yes, words in England are funny.

In America, knickers are half-length trousers. But in England, knickers are underwear.

In America, pants are full-length trousers (from the Spanish pantaloon). But in England, pants are underwear.

Hmmmmm ... there seems to be a pattern there.

Is that why american superheroes always wear underwear visibly?

Yes!

Why is the Clp 725 not with the rest of the lineup ? Was it the same for the clp 625 when it came out ?
The Clp 725 is the one I’m looking for as my first piano, I have been waiting for the new Clp 700 serie just for this model so its a bit disturbing to see that nobody is talking about it.

The x25 models always lacked most of the attractive features that people are looking out for on the higher end models, which is why nobody talks about it. One of the most important things missing from the 625 and its predecessor, the 525, is the VRM that boosts the realism for a digital piano.

This page from Yamaha shows the entire line-up, as it currently stands. And there is indeed no 725, but there is a 735.

https://dk.yamaha.com/da/products/musical_instruments/pianos/clavinova/index.html#d366071

It also gives the availability dates for the instruments (actually, availability months).

Note, that this page loads partly in English, partly in Danish on my machine, although I selected the global English website.

Are these prices very costly!! 👇

https://au.yamaha.com/en/products/musical_instruments/pianos/clavinova/clp-785/index.html

The 535 and 545 also didn't have VRM. The 635 and 645 do. But the x25 models are indeed very barebone.

https://ca.yamaha.com/fr/products/m...inova/clp-725/features.html#product-tabs
According to this page, it seems that the Clp 725 will have both the GrandTouch S and VRM. So maybe they are delaying this model due to the potential decrease in sell for the 735?
By the way, VRM is useless when playing with headphones ?

That's good news for those with a tighter budget. The effects of VRM can be heard through headphones as well.

Yeah, unfortunately this 700 line seems considerable more expensive.

Unless these prices are not accurate otavio

I guess this is a default feature on Yamahas nos but any mention about USB audio device built-in? I could not find it in the "feature" page in the website.

On the 600-series this was only avaöble from 635 and upwards but maybe the also decided to put in the entry 725 models now?

If they put USB audio interface on top of GrandTouch S and VRM inside the 725 model I don’t see any reason to buy the 735.
IMO if the VRM and GrandTouch S are indeed coming to the 725 model they will keep USB audio interface and line out for the 735. Personally, I’m fine with it. I prefer a midi to host in order to record midi via usb and use a nice VST for the sound. If all that is true then I’ll be really happy with this 725.

Unless you are on Australian website (au.yamaha.com) and prices there in AUD (not in USD).

Several things ...

As Daniel van Veen said ... the x25 models are indeed very barebone.
In the past the top-end Arius model ... either the YDP-x60 or x65, or the YDP-x80 or x85 ... would be a cheaper alternative.
These Arius pianos were almost identical to the low-end CLP-x20 or x25 units. The main difference was the slightly downmarket look to their cabinets.
I don't know, though, whether that still holds true with the current crop of YDP/Arius models vs. the new CLP725.
Does anyone know?

Otavio thinks the 700 line seems considerably more expensive.
I think that's often the case when a new line appears. But keep in mind that the "suggested retail price" is not the "asking price", and that the "asking price" is not the "selling price".
I think you can get 15% to 20% off the retail price at any time without effort. The dealer's ask will often take the suggested retail down that far on his ask/sticker.
And it's not hard to get 30% if you're earnest about buying.

It's hard, though, to compare prices across regions. Yes, you can easily convert currencies. But the regional price variations are huge.
In that regard I hear that the poor Aussies take it on the chin. The stuff is made right across the pond in Indonesia ... yet the selling prices in Australia are sky high.

And even worse ... Brazil kills it with their egregious import duties.
My daughter lived in Brazil when her husband took a post-doc position there.
He was a gamer. He wanted a new Playstation.
IIRC, it cost $400 in the US. In Brazil it was $1200. Yes, it's that bad!
I don't know about the piano situation in Brazil. Does someone else here know?

I recently watched a video comparing the 625 to the YDP-164, and there I learned that the Arius doesn't have String Resonance and Key Off samples. While the 625 does not have VRM, it actually does have String Resonance and Key off samples - which on the 635 and higher is part of the VRM. So, if the 725 gets the complete VRM, it will definitely have a more 'rich' sound than the Arius models.
This is the video I saw: clp-625 review

Unfortunately, the Download page of the CLP725 has nothing to offer.

When it will be filled, we should look for Yamaha Steinberg USB driver. This driver enable audio over USB. If only the USB-MIDI driver if proposed we would not have audio over USB.