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Re: Unpopular Opinions
dogperson #2996444 06/28/20 04:05 PM
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Originally Posted by patH
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Here's my unpopular (?) opinion about Chopin:
Too many notes, too little music.

There are exceptions.


It’s also be said that Mozart has too many notes. Guess we shouldn’t play either one?
Why not?

Too many notes? It was a jocular comment in response to PatH
And I asked because I don't believe that pieces with too many notes and too little music should not be played. If people want to play these, let them.
But apparently that's an unpopular opinion.


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samwitdangol #2996448 06/28/20 04:14 PM
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I find it extraordinary that a classical music listener could find little musical value in Chopin.

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samwitdangol #2996457 06/28/20 04:48 PM
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In my little opinion grin "The Prophet Bird," on a "pound-for-pound" basis (or maybe better to say, "per minute") is maybe the very most acute musical tool for telling the extent to which a pianist realizes that the notes on the page and especially the literal time values are just indicators of the music, rather than literally the music itself.


BTW, this kinda sorta also gets into a really unpopular pet peeve of mine: when people say "the music" instead of "the score," which is constant and in fact (I think) the usual thing.

When someone says "I'm going to play it with the music," I feel like saying, we'll see. ha

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samwitdangol #2996793 06/29/20 06:16 PM
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The Prophet Bird reminds me of Prokofiev's ballet music.

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johnstaf #2996797 06/29/20 06:26 PM
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Originally Posted by johnstaf
The Prophet Bird reminds me of Prokofiev's ballet music.

Y'know, if we sped it up a bit and shortened the rests or eliminated them, I'd probably think it's that!

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samwitdangol #2996980 06/30/20 08:17 AM
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I don't really like Brahms. I appreciate him as a composer, but I find it dry and unimaginative. Sorry...

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samwitdangol #2996989 06/30/20 09:02 AM
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Personally, I used the technique of "motivic saturation" to compose my music. https://www.talkclassical.com/66584-consul-piano-suite.html

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Nardo Brown #2996993 06/30/20 09:13 AM
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Originally Posted by Nardo Brown
Personally, I used the technique of "motivic saturation" to compose my music.
This is extremely unpopular indeed.

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Personally, I used the technique of "motivic saturation" to compose my music.
This is extremely unpopular indeed.
Personally, I subscribe to tidal premium, but it seems to be quite popular on Amazon music.
https://music.amazon.com/albums/B088WYWNRB?tab=CATALOG&ref=dm_wcp_albm_link_pr_s

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Nardo Brown #2997000 06/30/20 09:36 AM
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Originally Posted by Nardo Brown
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Personally, I used the technique of "motivic saturation" to compose my music.
This is extremely unpopular indeed.
Personally, I subscribe to tidal premium, but it seems to be quite popular on Amazon music.
https://music.amazon.com/albums/B088WYWNRB?tab=CATALOG&ref=dm_wcp_albm_link_pr_s

You sound like a very personal bot.


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Firstly, I am not a bot, and secondly maybe it is quite popular in some regions of the world as I personally do not use AmazonMusic to listen to music because my DCS upsampler only supports Tidal. for reference


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indigo_dave #2997365 07/01/20 04:18 AM
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Originally Posted by indigo_dave
Schoenberg strayed too far from the dance.


I find his suite for piano pretty funky: youtube.com/watch?v=bQHR_Z8XVvI

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samwitdangol #2997651 07/01/20 06:05 PM
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God is the greatest composer (is this an unpopular opinion? laugh )

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MinscAndBoo #2997682 07/01/20 08:49 PM
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Originally Posted by MinscAndBoo
God is the greatest composer (is this an unpopular opinion? laugh )

His/Her main conduits have been Bach and Schubert. grin

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Mark_C #2997683 07/01/20 08:50 PM
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God is the greatest composer (is this an unpopular opinion? laugh )

His/Her main conduits have been Bach and Schubert. grin
Do you think Schubert is underrated?

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chopinetto #2997688 07/01/20 09:07 PM
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Originally Posted by chopinetto
Do you think Schubert is underrated?

I think he's pretty much regarded as how I said. grin

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Originally Posted by indigo_dave
Schoenberg strayed too far from the dance.


I find his suite for piano pretty funky: youtube.com/watch?v=bQHR_Z8XVvI

In the link you gave to op. 25, I believe the description given of the piece is incorrect about it being Schoenberg's first 12-tone piece. In one of my music classes in college we studied the waltz from "Five Piano Pieces" op. 23 as a 12-tone piece. The professor pointed out how, when properly played, you can get the waltz feel, in spite of the fact that cues that we normally expect in a piano waltz are absent from it. Then he sat down at the piano and successfully demonstrated his point.

When one of my (nonmusical) roommates in college heard me practicing this waltz, he told me: "sounds like that song needs a lot of work." I told him: "no, that's exactly what it's supposed to sound like." His reply: "That composer should be strung up."

I only learned the first two pages before I gave up. Learning the piece felt similar to another mental exercise that I did in college -- learning digits of the math constant "pi" to 200 places. Which is to say, it takes a lot of rote memory work.

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Indeed my friend. Schubert D. 894? (the G major one), is the joy and peace of heaven!

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The Webern variations will dance your pants off!

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I don't know if has been proposed. But there's mine: Chopin music is to easy to grasp and is what uneducated people listens when they want to pose as connoisseurs. Music appreciation being in general an acquired taste, Chopin music is the easiest to acquire. Maybe that's the reason why some complete piano beginners have this unique goal of playing certain Chopin piece. You don't see any begginer saying: my only goal about piano is playing Bach's art of fugue or Ravel's valses.

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