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Re: Concert Pianist
samwitdangol #2997266 06/30/20 09:53 PM
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I guess you have to ask yourself the question... are you an artist? Maybe you can answer now or it may take some time. If you are not an artist, then, of course, forget about it.

But if, in your soul, you know you are... then it actually does not matter how you get by... and getting by decently is much more desirable than hand to mouth. Many of the people here talk of music as a hobby. If you can think of it that way you are probably not an artist. There certainly is nothing wrong with being a hobbyist. Generally, you can choose your hobbies. But you cannot choose if you are an artist. It chooses you. You can’t be flippant about it. It is a very deep thing. It’s something you have to investigate your soul about.

When I decided to be an artist at twenty it was not for the right reasons. It was a strange coincidence that I happened to be one anyway. Life is full of those ironies. Instead of having an agent I actually became one, and working with artists (illustrators) was incredibly meaningful and profitable.

But always I knew I was an artist... and that, for me, it was much more than a hobby. Now I am over seventy and have been experiencing the most creative and productive years since I was forty. And these days it is even better.

So, if you are indeed an artist, whether you become successful as a concert pianist is probably not the most important thing. If what you feel is not merely the thrill of becoming adept or famous but is something much more, then how you live your entire life will determine if you have fulfilled the dream and, perhaps, even the responsibility to yourself, of being an artist.


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Re: Concert Pianist
IosPlayer #2997312 07/01/20 12:29 AM
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Originally Posted by IosPlayer
I guess you have to ask yourself the question... are you an artist? Maybe you can answer now or it may take some time. If you are not an artist, then, of course, forget about it.

But if, in your soul, you know you are... then it actually does not matter how you get by... and getting by decently is much more desirable than hand to mouth. Many of the people here talk of music as a hobby. If you can think of it that way you are probably not an artist. There certainly is nothing wrong with being a hobbyist. Generally, you can choose your hobbies. But you cannot choose if you are an artist. It chooses you. You can’t be flippant about it. It is a very deep thing. It’s something you have to investigate your soul about.

When I decided to be an artist at twenty it was not for the right reasons. It was a strange coincidence that I happened to be one anyway. Life is full of those ironies. Instead of having an agent I actually became one, and working with artists (illustrators) was incredibly meaningful and profitable.

But always I knew I was an artist... and that, for me, it was much more than a hobby. Now I am over seventy and have been experiencing the most creative and productive years since I was forty. And these days it is even better.

So, if you are indeed an artist, whether you become successful as a concert pianist is probably not the most important thing. If what you feel is not merely the thrill of becoming adept or famous but is something much more, then how you live your entire life will determine if you have fulfilled the dream and, perhaps, even the responsibility to yourself, of being an artist.
But you don't necessarily have to quit your day job https://www.mentalfloss.com/article/52293/11-celebrated-artists-who-didnt-quit-their-day-jobs


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Originally Posted by IosPlayer
I guess you have to ask yourself the question... are you an artist? Maybe you can answer now or it may take some time. If you are not an artist, then, of course, forget about it.

But if, in your soul, you know you are... then it actually does not matter how you get by... and getting by decently is much more desirable than hand to mouth. Many of the people here talk of music as a hobby. If you can think of it that way you are probably not an artist. There certainly is nothing wrong with being a hobbyist. Generally, you can choose your hobbies. But you cannot choose if you are an artist. It chooses you. You can’t be flippant about it. It is a very deep thing. It’s something you have to investigate your soul about.

When I decided to be an artist at twenty it was not for the right reasons. It was a strange coincidence that I happened to be one anyway. Life is full of those ironies. Instead of having an agent I actually became one, and working with artists (illustrators) was incredibly meaningful and profitable.

But always I knew I was an artist... and that, for me, it was much more than a hobby. Now I am over seventy and have been experiencing the most creative and productive years since I was forty. And these days it is even better.

So, if you are indeed an artist, whether you become successful as a concert pianist is probably not the most important thing. If what you feel is not merely the thrill of becoming adept or famous but is something much more, then how you live your entire life will determine if you have fulfilled the dream and, perhaps, even the responsibility to yourself, of being an artist.

This is mostly crap. That is, unless the definition of "hobby" excludes the notion of being an "artist". To do so requires you to butcher the english language to the point where the concept of being a "food lover" excludes the possibility of one also being a "brilliant chef". "Hobbyist" and "artist" are not mutually exclusive. "Artist" is just a word that pretentious musicians use to describe themselves.


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Re: Concert Pianist
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Originally Posted by L'Orfeo
"Artist" is just a word that pretentious musicians use to describe themselves.

IMHO you are taking your argument too far.

A good musician has to not only play the notes add his interpretation. This is because the music does not show all the performance details.

I say 'his' interpretation because usually there are multiple valid interpretations, it's his style and personality that make him pick one that he prefers.

This interpretation step is where the term artist can be validly used I think.


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Originally Posted by wouter79
Originally Posted by L'Orfeo
"Artist" is just a word that pretentious musicians use to describe themselves.

IMHO you are taking your argument too far.

A good musician has to not only play the notes add his interpretation. This is because the music does not show all the performance details.

I say 'his' interpretation because usually there are multiple valid interpretations, it's his style and personality that make him pick one that he prefers.

This interpretation step is where the term artist can be validly used I think.
I think anyone can have an interpretation. Having an interpretation doesn't require a good understanding of music, good taste, or being a great musician.

I do agree that "artist" when applied to a musician is a somewhat pretentious term.

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samwitdangol #2998983 Yesterday at 10:36 AM
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I prefer the term "artiste" for pianists.

It sounds.....more musical, and less arty-farty. whistle


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Originally Posted by pianoloverus
I think anyone can have an interpretation. Having an interpretation doesn't require a good understanding of music, good taste, or being a great musician.

Ok I should have said a *good* interpretation, and he should execute the piece so that it shows his good interpretation.

Having a *good* interpretation and being able to execute it requires understanding the music, good taste, and being a good musician.


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