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Re: Piano brands, name recognition, and virtual instruments
WBLynch #2997209 06/30/20 06:38 PM
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Originally Posted by WBLynch
Probably. Bösendorfer Is owned by Yamaha now and several of their pianos are actually refined Yamaha models. The VC170 being one. It’s essentially a C2X with a few minor tweaks. I feel the entire VC Line has a very familiar Yamaha presence.

I’m curious how you got there.
I have a standing appointment every NAMM show in the Yamaha/Bösendorfer premium room, where, in addition to whatever new product they’re showcasing, there’s been a CFX and 280VC the past few years, and I often go back and forth between the concert grands. Never did I think from that experience, “hmm...these are the same thing.”

Granted, it wasn’t a C2X next to a 170 VC. But, I doubt you have the opportunity to do that yet, either, as you can probably count the number of 170VC models in US showrooms with maybe 1-2 fingers...


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This really getting all too "virtual" for me. I think we all need to consult Piano Buyer more carefully.

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Bosendorfer VC was discussed here:
http://forum.pianoworld.com/ubbthreads.php/topics/2967769/bosendorfer-vc.html
Yamaha had no direct influence on VC design.

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Originally Posted by WBLynch
Probably. Bösendorfer Is owned by Yamaha now and several of their pianos are actually refined Yamaha models. The VC170 being one. It’s essentially a C2X with a few minor tweaks. I feel the entire VC Line has a very familiar Yamaha presence.

This is so wrong. Simply and utterly wrong.


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Rich Galassini #2998024 07/02/20 08:14 PM
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Originally Posted by Rich Galassini
Originally Posted by WBLynch
Probably. Bösendorfer Is owned by Yamaha now and several of their pianos are actually refined Yamaha models. The VC170 being one. It’s essentially a C2X with a few minor tweaks. I feel the entire VC Line has a very familiar Yamaha presence.

This is so wrong. Simply and utterly wrong.

Thank you Rich! I’m not really sure why I care, but I do. It feels like somebody trashing my dream car, that I’ll never afford or own.

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Originally Posted by j&j
Originally Posted by Rich Galassini
Originally Posted by WBLynch
Probably. Bösendorfer Is owned by Yamaha now and several of their pianos are actually refined Yamaha models. The VC170 being one. It’s essentially a C2X with a few minor tweaks. I feel the entire VC Line has a very familiar Yamaha presence.

This is so wrong. Simply and utterly wrong.

Thank you Rich! I’m not really sure why I care, but I do. It feels like somebody trashing my dream car, that I’ll never afford or own.
Well not really trashing because a C or CX model Yamaha is a very nice piano., but no, those pianos could be tweaked "until the cows come home"but they could never end up being a Bosendorfer ,a
Steinways, a CBechstein etc, (I shall not go on)
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Your interesting thread has taken a weird turn.You will have to direct the "traffic"

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Originally Posted by j&j
Originally Posted by Rich Galassini
[quote=WBLynch]
Probably. Bösendorfer Is owned by Yamaha now and several of their pianos are actually refined Yamaha models. The VC170 being one. It’s essentially a C2X with a few minor tweaks. I feel the entire VC Line has a very familiar Yamaha presence.

This is so wrong. Simply and utterly wrong.

Dore
Your interesting thread has taken a weird turn.You will have to direct the "traffic"

Ahem, yes. Yamaha CFX's and other Yamaha's are definitely represented well in the list of virtual instruments, and Bose's are fairly common. My hobby of trying out these VI's to compare is definitely an imperfect comparison in that I only get to hear out how the piano "sounds" (sans action), but also the type of recording gear and processing can vary widely. Sometimes a darker sounding CFX will sound more like a Steinway, etc.

Well, since my house and pocketbook cannot handle more than one acoustic piano, having the VI's is the best I can do.


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