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Buying Heintzman + Co Piano
#2996718 06/29/20 02:33 PM
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I am looking to buy my first acoustic piano and need some advice: Is it better to spend a few grand and buy a new or slightly used piano, or is it worth it to buy an old 1910 Heintzman + Co piano. The current owner hasn't had it tuned in the last 10 years, it is slightly out of tune. Also no repairs were done in the last 10 years. He bought it used himself and doesn't know if any repairs had been done before. Please let me know, how much would this piano be worth and how long do you think it would still play before I would have to change hammers, etc. See pictures below.
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Re: Buying Heintzman + Co Piano
Wiesexxx #2996741 06/29/20 03:44 PM
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Heintzman from that era were certainly well respected and well made pianos, but it's now 110 years old. It's pretty likely it would need work, but you won't know until you have a piano technician (working on your behalf, not the seller's behalf) over to tune it and look it over. I would definitely NOT buy this piano until that's been done, if you're serious about getting it. Also, that behemoth is going to be a real bear to move, with a high center of gravity. I would hire pros for that part as well. Pianos like these from less famous brands are given away for free (in many parts of the US, anyway). There is more of a market for Heintzman in Canada, but I would not at all be surprised if it had issues that would condemn it to the scrap heap or total restoration (at a cost exceeding its market value, but there are some great Canadian techs like Rod Verhnjak who specialize in rebuilding them, http://www.pianoman.bc.ca/completedPianos.htm)

If you can swing it, I'd try and find something that's 20-25 years old for $2-3k. Also, seek out a piano that's had regular maintenance for a better chance of being able to fairly evaluate its touch and tone.


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terminaldegree #2996756 06/29/20 04:13 PM
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Originally Posted by Wiesexxx
Is it better to spend a few grand and buy a new or slightly used piano, or is it worth it to buy an old 1910 Heintzman + Co piano.

Wiesexxx, you make it sound like your only options are "new/slightly used" or "110 years old." But I don't think that's the case at all. See TD comment:

Originally Posted by terminaldegree
If you can swing it, I'd try and find something that's 20-25 years old for $2-3k. Also, seek out a piano that's had regular maintenance for a better chance of being able to fairly evaluate its touch and tone.

Yes, this exactly.

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If you can swing it, I'd try and find something that's 20-25 years old for $2-3k. Also, seek out a piano that's had regular maintenance for a better chance of being able to fairly evaluate its touch and tone.
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These exist - you just need to take the time to look for them. In the long haul, you will be much more satisfied with the purchase.


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Thank you very much for your feedback! smile

If you can swing it, I'd try and find something that's 20-25 years old for $2-3k. [/quote]
Any recommendations which brands to go for and which ones to stay away from?

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Look into whatever someone is giving away for free. I just connected two friends, one who wanted a piano, and another who had a Kawai studio to give to a good home. Studio pianos (45" or so) all tend to be pretty good, since they have been the workhorses of the school music programs, not that you would want one that has been in a school.


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How about a Pearl River UP108D, 12 years old for 2K? It's in excellent condition and has been tuned regularly.

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That was a pretty entry level piano in a small size. If you like it and it’s in really good condition I’d try and negotiate the price as low as you can. I reviewed two, about 10 years ago.

https://www.pianobuyer.com/article/review-inexpensive-entry-level-vertical-pianos/


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Hi Wiesexx, since you’re in Canada, are you quoting CAD or USD? Also, if you’re looking on a website like Kijiji or Craigslist, you might want to post the link so members here can take a look at it too and offer you better advice.


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Wiesexxx #2997111 06/30/20 02:27 PM
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2k CAN
Here's a link: https://www.varagesale.com/items/xus2sq7x-excellent-piano-for-sale
It was mentioned this is an entry-level. Can someone explain the difference between entry-level and not entry level? Is it the price range?

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Entry-level = It’s the shortest available height for a given market. The case design is made as basic as possible- it doesn’t even have front legs or toe blocks. It was built with low price in mind, from the start. The intended target market as a new instrument was probably beginners, hobbyists, and people wanting something new for the same price as a used piano. The highest priority of an entry level piano is low price, over performance.

It should be noted that this company is quite capable of making pianos at a variety of price/quality levels, so don’t think I am disparaging the current state of the brand.


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