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Yamaha DGX-660
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Hello everyone.

I want to record a professionally sounding EP, solo piano mostly but some tracks with (speaking) voice. I am wondering if the Yamaha DGX-660 is up to the task, or if there is a better option? Setting up a home studio to record my acoustic piano is out of the question since I live in an apartment and cannot play the piano without the sourdine, plus I'm no techhead. I've done a fair bit of research but am a relative beginner in the world of digital pianos. All suggestions and advice are very (very !) welcome. Yes, budget is a bit of an issue but can be overcome if the investment is worth it. Thanks in advance !

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The DGX-660 is really a beginner level DP. If I were you, i'd get some sounds on your computer and buy a used P-255 which has better action and might even be cheaper than a new DGX-660. The DGX-660 has old sounds from iirc the late 90's.


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If you look at the specs of that piano/arranger, you'll know that it is made for the likes of yourself.
Microphone input, customable, all the on board instruments you could want and a simple 6 track (5 tracks plus accompaniment) facility which would give you a great start.
You'd be able to work out your singing and basic accompaniment plus the peripheral stuff later.
The piano itself is very good, not as dated as some might suggest. Yamaha only make Nice Sounding Pianos.

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(BTW, I had the 620, 630 and 650. Loved 'em all.)

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Hi MaryLou,
I agree with Peter that the Yamaha DGX-660 is a great value at its price. I have owned one for 2-1/2 years and it still amazes me what Yamaha packed into this relatively inexpensive instrument.

You may want to read my detailed review here: http://forum.pianoworld.com/ubbthre...ck-to-yamaha-on-dgx-660.html#Post2699714

Clicking on my name in the sidebar and scrolling down to Forum Posts will bring up several threads in which I respond to queries about the DGX-660.

I bought a Kawai acoustic grand a year ago but will always keep my Yamaha digital, too. It may suit you well, particularly due to its arranger capabilities for adding a voice track, though it's unclear to me at what level you play and your budget constraints.

Best wishes for your search for the right piano for you!
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Currently working on: Mozart -- Adagio in B minor, K. 540
Pianos: Kawai GM-10, Yamaha DGX-660

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MaryLou #2995630 06/26/20 07:46 PM
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I have a DGX 650 which has the same action/main piano sound and while piano sound is good, the action is really lackluster and has gotten worse over the years. pretty loud lately too.

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Hi joemama420, peterws, Lotus 1 and Kougeru,

A Big Big "Thank You" for your replies! Really really helpful. I will try to find a P-255 to check the sound, action etc for comparison with the DGX-600, but they seem to be not so easy to locate. They are currently listed as unavailable on Amazon. I practise on a Kawai grand at a studio I rent by the hour so I will have that reference in my head (and fingers) when I head to a store to check out the DGX-600 and, if possible, the P-255, in the next couple of days. Again, so appreciative of everyone who responded with such practical information and encouragement.

Many thanks and best wishes to all,
MaryLou

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MaryLou #2995936 06/27/20 02:25 PM
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The P255 of course is just one of many digital pianos and also a discontinued model. There are many other options out there.

What was it that made you look at the DGX? Is the microphone input somehow relevant as you mentioned recording vocals too?

(They can of course be recorded separately.)

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If you want to record voice and pianos with good sound and in a professional way, you should consider using a good 88 keys MIDI keyboard with virtual piano on a computer. And also voice recording will be better than doing it through a dgx660
This might be an option to consider seriously

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Hi clothearednincompo,

Thanks for your reply. Yes, the ability to record vocals as I'm playing is important. Speaking not singing. They are not something I could envisage recording separately as the words are too integrated with what I'm playing and are informed and inspired by it. Recording straight to USB is a plus too.

I know there are many digital piano options out there, believe me, I've researched, but at some point I feel I just have to jump in. The DGX 600 seems like it might do a decent enough job for what I want without breaking the bank and without taking too long to get some traction on the learning curve. I'm thinking I can upgrade later if I really want. Anyhow I will check it out tomorrow, and maybe some others, we'll see what happens.

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Seems like the microphone input is crucial then

Lucky (?) for you it isn't a too common feature, so there isn't that much alternatives for the DGX. Makes the choice easier. 😉

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Hi Rage 44,

I did consider this option and it's not off the table, but it looks more complicated than playing a digital piano that simultaneously records. Maybe not, but at the moment it looks that way to me. I am a bit of a screenphobe, I hate spending masses of time in front of a computer, so the idea of having to get up to speed on virtual pianos is not so appealing. However if it turns out to be worth it I might reconsider. Thanks for reminding me about this option, I'll definitely keep it in mind.

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You might have heard this young lady.

https://youtu.be/DtgRriPZUOA


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Originally Posted by MaryLou
... I practise on a Kawai grand at a studio I rent by the hour so I will have that reference in my head (and fingers) when I head to a store to check out the DGX-600 ...

MaryLou, you will likely find the touch of the DGX-660 quite different from that of a Kawai grand. (As mentioned above, I own examples of both instruments.) Kawai grands are known for having a heavier touch than many other grand pianos, and the DGX-660 has a lighter touch than many other digital pianos.

I practice for two hours every day on my Kawai grand. If I skip a few days, I find that it takes ten minutes to get used to its touch again. The DGX-660's lighter touch is less demanding and even though I play it only a couple of times a month, it is easy to adjust quickly to its touch response.

I don't find that unusual since -- as a child many decades ago -- I played on different pianos at home, at my music teacher's house, at recitals and at exams, and adjusting to different touch responses was one of the skills we were expected to develop. No grand piano feels exactly like another, and no digital feels exactly like a grand, either.

"clothearednincompo" -- our friend from Finland who is no nincompoop -- is wise to say:
Originally Posted by clothearednincompo
Seems like the microphone input is crucial then. Lucky (?) for you it isn't a too common feature, so there isn't that much alternatives for the DGX. Makes the choice easier. 😉

So does "peterws", who has owned several versions in the DGX series, and used its microphone input:
Originally Posted by peterws
If you look at the specs of that piano/arranger, you'll know that it is made for the likes of yourself.
Microphone input, custom[iz]able, all the on board instruments you could want and a simple 6 track (5 tracks plus accompaniment) facility which would give you a great start.

Sometimes, this forum of digital piano aficionados suggests all kinds of exotic alternatives to a simple and obvious piano choice. Good luck!

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MaryLou #2996678 06/29/20 11:42 AM
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In the "cheap" category Medeli also has the SP4200 stage piano with a mic input.

But the Yamaha likely sounds better.

And I'm not familiar with the audio recording options on the Medeli.

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Hi Lotus 1,

Thanks for a great wrap up of the info and advice on this. I didn't expect the same touch, just an action that wasn't too flimsy and too removed from what I like to play. One thing I like about the Kawai grand I play is its heavier touch. I haven't had your experience in adjusting to pianos so I'll keep your words in mind when I eventually get to a DGX 600. The store I went to the other day will not have stock for another month so I'll have to scout around to see if I can find one elsewhere. Everything seems to be in a bit of disarray after the shutdown. To be continued....!!

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Hi clothearednincompo,

Thanks for the extra suggestion re the Medeli SP2400. I haven't heard of this brand but that doesn't mean much. I'll look out for it. As I said to Lotus 1, there is no DGX 600 stock at the store I went to (at -20% !!! so that's a BIG factor in its favour right now) for the next month, so I have a bit of time up my sleeve to mull things over and check tings out.

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Hi peterws,

Yes I have heard this lady....somewhere in my internet search. Thanks for the link, I saved it this time !

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Originally Posted by peterws
You might have heard this young lady.

https://youtu.be/DtgRriPZUOA

Is the intrumental gackground a style from the DGX660? which one?

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The Medeli doesn't seem to record audio, so you can ignore it. The Yamaha will be more convenient as you don't need an external device to record.


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